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Japanese-Town??

Started by hol4
over 15 years ago
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Is there a Japanese (whether Japanese American, or 1st gen Japanese) neighborhood in the city??
Response by MidtownerEast
over 15 years ago
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Midtown East

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Response by alanhart
over 15 years ago
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nj

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Response by MidtownerEast
over 15 years ago
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I wasn't joking, by the way:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/198745

This article mentions the East Village, but also Midtown East, among others.

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Response by w67thstreet
over 15 years ago
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Hey. WTF ? Can someone point me to cracker town?

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Response by w67thstreet
over 15 years ago
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Hey hole. 1040. Take the $15k tax credit. You ninny.

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Response by lincolnman
over 15 years ago
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There are a lot of the Japanese businessmen clubs in Turtle Bay / Midtown East.

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Response by jason10006
over 15 years ago
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There WAS a sort-of little Tokyo in the East village, and there are still a lot of restaruants there. Its between St. Mark’s Place and 10th St. in the East Village.

This is not to be confused with the tiny Korean area in midtown.

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Response by MidtownerEast
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Cracker Town? I told you already: Midtown East.

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Response by generalogoun
over 15 years ago
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Fort Lee, New Jersey. There's a small Japanese department store on the west side of 6th Avenue in the upper 30's.

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Response by falcogold1
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The first time I heard the expression 'cracker' in reference to white people bewildered me. I thought to myself...well, Saltines are a pasty shade of white. Cracker must find it's origin there. Then I'm thinking, that's kind of specific. Why a cracker...why not a glass of milk or perhaps a hard boiled egg. Several days later I ask a 'more' urban hip person than myself and found the true origin of cracker. Very funny!!!

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Response by falcogold1
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jap town used to be Bloomingdales.

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Response by e76
over 15 years ago
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Fort Lee, NJ tends to be predominately Korean...

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Response by falcogold1
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River Road...Edgewater
Japantown NJ (most dangerous road way in the world)

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Response by jason10006
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Yes, and if there is one thing Japanese- and Korean-americans LOVE, its being conflated with one another.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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falcogold, the origins of the word cracker has always been a point of dispute for crackers and those assuming they know the true meaning. indeed, even the beacons and keepers of all knowledge, wiki and urbandictionary, vastly disagree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(pejorative)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracker

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Response by aboutready
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crackers should be guarded by monkeys

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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"Yes, and if there is one thing Japanese- and Korean-americans LOVE, its being conflated with one another."

jason, they do seem to live in harmony in bergen county. maybe people of all warring countries should have to live in fort lee until they learn to get along.

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Response by jason10006
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Lucille, I can assure you with 100% certainty, that if you went to a group of Korean-americans (say at a Church) and another group of Japanese Americans, that every single one of them would be offended if you said "Japanese, Korean, its all the same."

They. HATE. IT!!!!!

I am from California, went to Berkeley (like 30% asain), my father speaks fluent Korean, and worked for years as a phone company community outreach spokesman to Korean Americans in California.

You will win NO friends conflated Koreans and Japanese.

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Response by huntersburg
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Jason, agreed. Tell a NYer that he's a Californian from a Mediterranean climate, and you'll win no friends.

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Response by jason10006
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I am going to call BS on urbandicctionary. Wikipedia shows the Britannica, Darwin, and other 100+ year old usage of the term. It has links to primary sources. Saying "crack a whip" is entirely retarded, as poor whites could not afford to even own slaves.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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"every single one of them would be offended if you said "Japanese, Korean, its all the same."

i would certainly hope so, because that's a stupid offensive thing to say. which no one on this thread has actually said. fort lee and edgewater have both a large korean community and large japanese community. so they conflate....in the new jersey boroughs of fort lee and edgewater. serisouly, there are tons of both. that huge japanese supermarket that was on bourdain's show is in edgewater. conflate.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
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"Saying "crack a whip" is entirely retarded, as poor whites could not afford to even own slaves."

jason, the "cracker" would not have been the planter himself, but an employee, the poorer and meaner the better. the plantation owner didn't actually get their hands dirty, he would not have been the one to administer punishment or stay gard in the field.

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Response by jason10006
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But their are no old sources cited for "cracking the whip." Their ARE writings from 100, 200 years ago and older for the "cracked corn" eater definition, and so forth. "Crack the whip" is an urban myth. Neither ubandic or wiki has a primary source for this made-up definition, but someone writing in 1740 that they were called thus because they ate cheap cracked corn sounds 1,000x more authoritative.

Also - PLEASE LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF CONFLATE! You are just digging a deeper hole. Here is a start: "Conflation occurs when the identities of two or more individuals, concepts, or places, sharing some characteristics of one another, become confused until there seems to be only a single identity — the differences appear to become lost"

THIS IS OFFENSIVE TO KOREANS AND JAPANESE - to say there is no difference between the two! And I am referring to e76's post above. When someone asks for a Japantown, its insulting to give them a Korea-town instead.

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Response by jason10006
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Response by malthus
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Once again, Jason, you need to step back and take a few breaths. Now consider that e76 was not responding to the OP but to generalogoun's reply.

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Response by LucilleIsSorry
over 15 years ago
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holy crap, jason. you're nuts. yes?

lexapro 20mg will take that edge right off

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Response by MidtownerEast
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Does Japanese Town have a Mediterranean climate or is it wet and foggy like SF? << Jason's head explodes >>

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Response by huntersburg
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Hey MidtownerEast, why do both you and Wbottom each pick on jason10006 so much?

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Response by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
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This is one crazy thread.
So, just for fun...
It's a dog eat dog world unless your Korean.
Then, it's a Korean eat dog world.
(just kidding, my kimchi chewing friends)

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Response by huntersburg
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North or South?

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Response by falcogold1
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It would have to be south because in the north they have take a vow of hunger.

As Lil'Kim says,"Food is for sissys"!

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Response by huntersburg
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Interesting.

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Response by hol4
over 15 years ago
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hmm always thought turtle bay was koreans?? every Asian I know in turtle bay/sutton place is korean except a philipino.. but like fort lee, i guess they live together to some extent

always thought the sushi joints on st marks were just a bunch of mexicans pimping out Cooper/NYU hipsters from the midwest enjoying 'ethnic' treasts to brag back to their less ambitious obese midwestern counterparts about how cultured they are (ie do japanese people actually live in alphabet city? doubt it)

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Response by falcogold1
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Of all the immigrants that live in NYC....whose the politest?
Japanese
If there was a Japanburg...I'd move there, unless there was some compelling underground toxic reason not to.

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Response by alanhart
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Polite? Did you say "polite"? Nothing is polite until we decide it is! Was it polite when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

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>Lucille, I can assure you with 100% certainty, that if you went to a group of Korean-americans (say at a Church) and another group of Japanese Americans, that every single one of them would be offended if you said "Japanese, Korean, its all the same."
>They. HATE. IT!!!!!

Of course, if you say it like that and to their faces in the way you did.

>I am from California
Yes, we know

>, went to Berkeley
Yes, we know

>(like 30% asain),
You misspelled Asian and didn't use proper capitalization. That's careless and offensive

>my father speaks fluent Korean
How can you be sure if you don't speak fluent Korean?

>, and worked for years as a phone company community outreach spokesman to Korean Americans in California.

>You will win NO friends conflated Koreans and Japanese.
Huh? What that English?

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