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AR: Amazing news about your new purchase. Congrats. I have had a lot of friends move to Harlem. They love it. One who used to flip apts in the Dakota just bought a huge live/event space in North Harlem. So if you are ever in need of space for that huge closing party, i'll give you his contact info. Enjoy. It is always exciting to move to a new hood. And I can't wait for the ppsf info. Good luck.
>Amazing news about your new purchase
Ok, confirmed, we are in upside-down reverso day.
i don't actually bother the se people. i never report abuse anyone and i only emailed them once when they trolled by dear friend lucilleissorry. i don't think they like being bothered.
> i never report abuse
Seriously, what kind of NYer can't stick up for him or herself?
Should Anthony Weiner get to "report abuse" against Andrew Breitbart?
apt23, we're hitting some snags in the process, but we're hopeful. i haven't fallen in love with it, but i could, if you know what i mean.
if it goes through maybe i'll throw a party. thanks.
kiss kiss kiss. happy happy pretend happy kiss kiss
alanhart: One kid is graduated (in college), the other is still in high school... so I that's kinda like one-and-a-half kids through the system :-)
matsonjones, more like one and three quarters.
aboutready: (*sigh*) True. Time goes too fast. I wish it would all slow down just a bit.
lucillebluth: Yes, dummy, you're an idiot. read it again. and again.
are you sorry for going on your weird tirade because you failed to understand the situation? oddly, that didn't stop you from taking a suspiciously passionate stand. do you get that you were the idiot?
omg how funny! we totally typed that at the same time! even though you were clealy the idiot whose brain is unable to process the words he reads on a computer screen.
I don't get lucille, not one bit. Don't understand the point she is making other than "you are all stupid."
sometimes that's a legitimate point. what don't you get? ask a question, i'll do my best to clear things up.
jason, you might not get lucille. Ok, I can understand. But you think San Francisco has the same climate as Greece.
I'm making limoncello. It's more work than I had expected.
lucille = a person who never had a child in school anywhere, never attended any K-12 school in New York personally, and doesn't currently live in New York (all by their own admission). Thinks they know enough about the system to lecture someone who actually went through the NYC public school system personally, has now put two children (almost) through the NYC public school system, and has lived in NYC their entire life (with other friends who are now parents also at various stages of putting their children through the same public system). Your unwavering arrogance, unwillingness to admit when another has more experience, and total ignorance are truly astonishing.
I actually feel sorry for you lucillebluth. You're kind of sad and pathetic. Actually, the truth is I feel sorry for your kids being raised by a parental example like you.
Watching Lucille decompensate in a hail of gibberish brings to mind the movie "Frances," but the lobotomy option is not available here.
SE -- You have the ability to exercise troll patrol and stop the spectacle. Why don't you?
hilarious!
Two articles (out of many) from the local newspaper, Tribeca Trib on this topic:
"Tribeca Parents Get First Look at Alternate, Chinatown School"
http://tribecatrib.com/news/2011/june/1029_tribeca-parents-get-a-look-at-chinatown-school-where-their-kids-are-assigned.html
"New School Won't End Demand for Seats" (note parents several years ago do not want their kids bused to Greenwich Village)
http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/2011/april/952_new-elementary-school-wont-end-demand-for-seats-downtown.html
Injustice in Chinatown school: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/10/its-hot-and-these-first-graders-are-bothered/?hp
Speak of the Devil...
Boston Globe feature:
GETTING IN | INSIDE BOSTON’S SCHOOL ASSIGNMENT MAZE
A daily diaspora, a scattered street
Every morning, children in Boston disperse to schools all over. Childhood chums, and neighborhood feeling, can be left behind
http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2011/06/12/on_one_city_street_school_choice_creates_a_gap/
Wave: it's all been said before. Desegregation in the form of school lotteries (SF, Boston, etc.) was a bitter but necessary pill that ended up making large city schools "worse" than before. Zoning is unfair because wealthy/educated/striver-immigrant areas will end up with good schools. The only place where it hasn't worked out too badly is Berkeley but Berkeley feeds into one high school. Wealthy suburbs in the metro NYC area get away with not having to deal with segregation's legacy because one town-one or two high schools.
Alan: agree that if gov't action ends up causing private gain, that it shouldn't be guaranteed. Too bad, so sad. The reality is that the overflow won't end up in public schools, especially if they're far away and if they're perceived to be inferior. Having sufficient system capacity is meaningless at the elementary level.
SF is undoing the lottery system at elementary level. http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/students-can-stay-closer-home
Berkeley - by virtue of one high school, the system sounds quite fair. I looked into this a while ago, and would move there if not for 'em earthquakes.
http://www.berkeleyside.com/2011/02/04/parents-cross-their-fingers-in-berkeley-school-lottery/
Read through the comment section on Berkeley article - unclear how the software computes socio-economic diversity. Sounds like someone living in a poorer neighborhood has a better chance of getting into the most desirable schools. Wouldn't people then rent in those neighborhoods when they are filling out the app? Or is that NE-style gaming?
That's some software package for SF school assignment!
I grew up in a poor neighborhood. Believe it or not, I would still prefer to go to my old grammar school (granted it was parochial). In fact, one of the reasons why I'm strongly considering moving from my current apartment is the transient nature of my neighborhood--over a 30% turnover rate. I like being in a close-knit community and being acquainted with my neighbors. I'm still in touch with two of my grammar school classmates and my high school class has its own facebook page. It's great to still be in contact with people who "knew you when" and who offer help and support.
Bottom Line NYC loves to tax your income until you want to use the services your taxes are supposed to pay for. Then they will give you bupkiss and drive you out to the burbs.
Public program including education is a failure. Vouchers for all citizens and let the market decide.