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Hi everybody. I have a laundry room that's only 23 inches deep and set up with 110v, and must be a non-vented type. I have looked everywhere online, but can't find a decent washer/dryer combo that's thin enough to fit. Most conventional units/stackable units run 25 inches deep, and still need a couple more inches for plumbing.
It is a brand new condo so I don't want to rip up the walls to do a 220v. Besides, tearing up the back wall would only yield a 3/4 inch gain as that's probably the thickness of the sheetrock.
I have seen Haier models, combo units, that are 22.5 inches in depth. Even those might prove hard to fit with hoses and wires going in the back.
Any suggestions? Anybody encounter this problem?
1. What have your neighbors done?
2. Would it make sense in your setup to bump the front of the laundry closet out, to create more depth?
3. Or simply lose the door(s) to the laundry closet and have the front of the machine extend a few inches out? The latter is how the typical refrigerator works. Although some prefer counter-depth, nobody dies for lack of it. And besides, a legal modern automated electrical clothing-washing machine is still a status symbol in NY.
I believe that depth is as small as it gets. Otherwise, you'll be going into portable size. There aren't many options for ventless either... LG, Bosch or Haier.
Can a combo washer/dryer be installed in a space where a dishwasher is now?
If this is a brand new building, can the developer provide any guidance?
Keep in mind that anything that runs on 110v is going to be minimally useful to you - it may be good for washing and drying underwear, and that's about it. Plan on having it run for 4 hours.
I'd go through whatever hassle is required to get a good, full-sized, 220v washer and dryer in there. Even 24" is small, in my opinion. I put a 27" Electrolux (largest tub capacity) in my apartment, and the difference is noticeable. The three extra inches of capacity means we do one load of white and one load of colors every week to 10 days v. two of each with a 24". We can also wash absolutely everything, including comforters, in the 27", whereas some things were just too large for the 24" we had.
A good washer and dryer is the ultimate luxury in New York. I'd spend the money and endure the hassle to get something good v. for "out of underwear" emergencies.
alanhart: no neighbors to ask yet, brand new building. having washer stick out of room would mean getting rid of a pair of nice looking, really tall doors. besides, it would stick right out into hallway. might be the next thing to consider though before ripping open any walls.
lad: sponsor is not providing any washers, so no opinions. yeah, it sucks that they made the closet that small, and with only 110v, and non vented. right now the 220v is out of the question. it would require tearing out a lot of sheetrock/too expensive. e panel is all the way on other end of apt. guess i'll have to really plan my washings.
thanks all. somebody else recommended a couple units from haier and summit. not the most reliable brands/units, but i think i'll have to chance it for now with a $1000 unit than have to spend many thousands to rip open walls and redo electrical. that may have to come later as a last resort, hopefully not, but i really don't feel like it right now as it will never look as good afterwards.
If you love the doors, just build a bump-out into the hallway, and reuse the doors on that. Radius the corners for a really rad look. Tubular!
So the developer and the architect deisnged a 23 in laundry room when the standard size of washers and dryers are 25 + inches deep. Great going! It's a miracle they sobered up long enough to make the kitchen deep enough for a stove.
All Laundry Rooms should be measured according to the Wishes of the Leader.
"Can a combo washer/dryer be installed in a space where a dishwasher is now?"
Perhaps you look at models that are designed for RV's?
This is the most compact washer I've ever seen: http://www.indiegogo.com/The-Scrubba-Wash-Bag
if you buy a hair or summit, make sure you get an extended warranty. you'll definitely be using it, numerous times.
i would actually go to PC Richards and take a look at their selection. many items in the store are not on the website. ideally, you can find a portable washer and have someone build a strong shelf that can hold a smallish dryer or buy this http://www.walmart.com/ip/Avanti-Products-Washer-Dryer-Mounting-Bracket/17730188. drying times will be insanely long.
Only in Manhattan does paying top dollar for a new condo not entitle you to a full size washer and dryer.
Socialist, your comments have been reported to the Great Leader for possible reeducation.
Lad, is your drier by Electrolux ? Also, is it ventless ?
Is there a more appropriate place for the w/d in the kitchen, where you have access to waterlines and hopefully gas and venting? You would still need a 220v but itt sounds like it would be less demo than the 23" closet.
jazzobuzzo, yes, we also have an Electrolux dryer (stacked). We vented through the roof.
I have a Malber but I line dry the clothes. I put in a LG combo in one of my rentals and the tenants love it.
Get rid of the "nice looking, really tall doors" and be done with it. Put in a regular stackable washer/dryer.
if gas is close, buy one of the Gas powered ones. then you'll need to do the "vent box" to have it vented. whoever the developer is, they are idiots and you will have a lot of fun dealing with the design choices.
i'd backout if possible.
I'm nearly certain that gas-heated dryers need to be vented properly to the exterior, not just with a lint-trap box, if that's what you're suggesting.
the compact ones use too few water, clothes are not that clean after washing. should go buy a traditional one
The compact ones do a great job, but you need to be very careful not to overload them.
That's especially true for the drying cycle of the combos, which specify half the capacity of the same unit's wash cycle. A change in procedure is needed -- either air-dry half the wash load, or only put in a half load if the whole thing needs to proceed automatically to the dry cycle.