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Does this apartment make me look fat?

Started by falcogold1
almost 14 years ago
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http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/682568-coop-480-park-avenue-midtown-new-york 480 Park Avenue #10H 5'9"X7' bedroom? how is that a bedroom. Every windowed closet in this town is NOT a bedroom. Come on Mercedes Schwartz you have to study to get a RE licence right? There's a test...right?
Response by ab_11218
almost 14 years ago
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She may have taken the test 20+ times to pass. There's no limit in how many times you can take it as long as you pay.

i was also thinking a walk-in-closet, then i realized that by moving the wall of the master by 2 ft, it will be a glorious WIC or a room for a kid.

with couples who have children living in studios, this ain't too bad for a kid.

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Response by alanhart
almost 14 years ago
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The law mandates that neither side of a bedroom be less than 8 feet [7 feet if there are three or more bedrooms]. So no way this could ever be a legal two bedroom by shoving one wall over a little.

A broker like this really should have her license pulled instantly and permanently.

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Response by ab_11218
almost 14 years ago
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considering that a bedroom also needs a closet, a window, and, i think, 100 sq ft of space, you can take most of those "1 bedrooms" that are less then 500 sq ft and say the same.

i am not defending Mercedes here, her parents named her after the car they couldn't afford. maybe changed her last name as well from ProjectHo.

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Response by ManhattanBradNY
almost 14 years ago
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You're absolutely right. Can't really even call that 'converted to 2' as 'ab' says based on square footage necessary for a technical bedroom - plus closet and window. She could probably get away saying one bed plus nursery but that's about it.

Brad Malow
BuyingNYC.com

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Response by NWT
almost 14 years ago
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That's why a maid's room isn't usually included in a bedroom count.

This one doesn't bother me, as nobody looking at it would think it's a real two-bedroom, and having it turn up in searches is only a minor annoyance.

What's silly is asking nearly $300,000 more than #11H upstairs, just for that wall.

This must be the rare example in 480 Park, a 50%-cash building, of an owner trying to schnorr his way to an extra room with a skeevy partition. Seems more York Avenue postwar.

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Response by Triple_Zero
almost 14 years ago
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Yeah, 5'9" by 7' is a tight squeeze for a bedroom, unless it's for a baby. Call it a home office or something.

Is there a reason why a room has to have a window to be called a bedroom? You'd think that you wouldn't mind a lack of light in a room where you *sleep*.

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Response by NWT
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It's for both light and air. The code evolved in response to 19th-century public-health problems, when builders could construct unventilated inside bedrooms. Then you'd have a bunch of people in them passing TB to one another.

All just labelling, though. Look at all the new-construction buildings with rooms (that'll obviously be used as bedrooms) called "home office" or "home occupancy" in the plans in order to meet the letter of the law.

Or a windowless cellar. The city won't approve a full bath down there, as it knows what'll happen, but the half-bath will always have plenty of room at the side for a shower to be snuck in later.

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Response by UES10021
almost 14 years ago
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Does a room need a closet to be legally considered a bedroom? I thought it was only a square foot requirement, ceiling height requirement, and a window requirement. I would love if anyone has a more definitive answer.

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Response by NWT
almost 14 years ago
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In some but not all jurisdictions a closet is required. Don't know about NYC.

In Europe it's just assumed that the resident furnishes a wardrobe.

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Response by matsonjones
almost 14 years ago
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Actually, to be considered now a legal bedroom, the room must measure not less than 8 feet on all sides (including ceiling height), and have a dedicated window that fully opens and can be accessed - a skylight (as I recently found out) even if it does open will not fulfill the legal requirement of a window....neither does a room that fits all the requirements but whose only window opens on a lot line with an adjacent building blocking egress.

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Response by NWT
almost 14 years ago
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Right, if the only window is on the lot line and therefore *could* be covered if the next-door lot were to be redeveloped in the future, then can't call it a bedroom.

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Response by nyc_sport
almost 14 years ago
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Do the windows on the 76th floor of Gehry open? I hope not.

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Response by walpurgis
almost 14 years ago
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Remember, you can always dress in stripes, which are very slimming.

Rosie O'Donnell did-& it worked beautifully. Now she looks like she weighs only 500 pounds!

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Response by RHODIA
almost 14 years ago
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In NYC building code: a "room" can't be less than 8' in any direction (used to be 7')

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Response by mime
almost 14 years ago
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8s enough

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Response by Sunday
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I thought 8 is the new 10, 6 is the new 8, 4 is the new 6, etc...

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Response by NYRENewbie
almost 14 years ago
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The title of this thread is perfect. Good one Falco.

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Response by huntersburg
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>The title of this thread is perfect. Good one Falco.

You prefer it to the thread he created about something we could all agree on, that no one agreed on?

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Response by jim_hones10
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alcogold1
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stop ignoring this person
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http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/682568-coop-480-park-avenue-midtown-new-york
480 Park Avenue #10H
5'9"X7' bedroom? how is that a bedroom.
Every windowed closet in this town is NOT a bedroom.
Come on Mercedes Schwartz you have to study to get a RE licence right?
There's a test...right?

actually there is nothing in the real estate exam about what constitutes a bedroom size. plenty about easements and soffetts.

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Response by Brooks2
almost 14 years ago
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Yes.

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Response by alanhart
almost 14 years ago
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jim_hones10, why would they test lower primates on matters soffit? Just what sort of soffit information is on the real estate exam?

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