http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/682568-coop-480-park-avenue-midtown-new-york
480 Park Avenue #10H
5'9"X7' bedroom? how is that a bedroom.
Every windowed closet in this town is NOT a bedroom.
Come on Mercedes Schwartz you have to study to get a RE licence right?
There's a test...right?

She may have taken the test 20+ times to pass. There's no limit in how many times you can take it as long as you pay.

i was also thinking a walk-in-closet, then i realized that by moving the wall of the master by 2 ft, it will be a glorious WIC or a room for a kid.

with couples who have children living in studios, this ain't too bad for a kid.

considering that a bedroom also needs a closet, a window, and, i think, 100 sq ft of space, you can take most of those "1 bedrooms" that are less then 500 sq ft and say the same.

i am not defending Mercedes here, her parents named her after the car they couldn't afford. maybe changed her last name as well from ProjectHo.

You're absolutely right. Can't really even call that 'converted to 2' as 'ab' says based on square footage necessary for a technical bedroom - plus closet and window. She could probably get away saying one bed plus nursery but that's about it.

Brad Malow
BuyingNYC.com

That's why a maid's room isn't usually included in a bedroom count.

This one doesn't bother me, as nobody looking at it would think it's a real two-bedroom, and having it turn up in searches is only a minor annoyance.

What's silly is asking nearly $300,000 more than #11H upstairs, just for that wall.

This must be the rare example in 480 Park, a 50%-cash building, of an owner trying to schnorr his way to an extra room with a skeevy partition. Seems more York Avenue postwar.

Yeah, 5'9" by 7' is a tight squeeze for a bedroom, unless it's for a baby. Call it a home office or something.

Is there a reason why a room has to have a window to be called a bedroom? You'd think that you wouldn't mind a lack of light in a room where you *sleep*.

It's for both light and air. The code evolved in response to 19th-century public-health problems, when builders could construct unventilated inside bedrooms. Then you'd have a bunch of people in them passing TB to one another.

All just labelling, though. Look at all the new-construction buildings with rooms (that'll obviously be used as bedrooms) called "home office" or "home occupancy" in the plans in order to meet the letter of the law.

Or a windowless cellar. The city won't approve a full bath down there, as it knows what'll happen, but the half-bath will always have plenty of room at the side for a shower to be snuck in later.

Does a room need a closet to be legally considered a bedroom? I thought it was only a square foot requirement, ceiling height requirement, and a window requirement. I would love if anyone has a more definitive answer.

In some but not all jurisdictions a closet is required. Don't know about NYC.

In Europe it's just assumed that the resident furnishes a wardrobe.

Right, if the only window is on the lot line and therefore *could* be covered if the next-door lot were to be redeveloped in the future, then can't call it a bedroom.

Do the windows on the 76th floor of Gehry open? I hope not.

Remember, you can always dress in stripes, which are very slimming.

Rosie O'Donnell did-& it worked beautifully. Now she looks like she weighs only 500 pounds!

In NYC building code: a "room" can't be less than 8' in any direction (used to be 7')

8s enough

I thought 8 is the new 10, 6 is the new 8, 4 is the new 6, etc...

The title of this thread is perfect. Good one Falco.