133 W 22nd Street

nyc9999: about 24 months ago

The unit 10B displays a square footage which seems wrong. On Acris ''condo declaration'', on propertyshark, on natefind.com, the size I've found is 934 sqft. On the floor plan, I calculated the area and I've found near 934. On google, there is file registered in NYC which also states 934 sqft. On Zillow, the number was 934 sqft and the description itself of the listing sold in 2009 stated 934 sqft. But what is very strange is that the square footage has been removed...
934 or 10005 sqft, it is equivalent to about $100,000 of difference, if we caluclate the price per sqft.
I may make a mistake. But I wanted to give this information.

Apt_Boy: about 2 years ago

some loss here on new construction...d'oh

Sold on Mar 22, 2010 for $590,000
133 West 22nd St, 7A
Manhattan, NY 10011
Boro-block-lot: 1-798-1506

Sold on Dec 19, 2008 for $705,000
133 West 22nd St, 7A
Manhattan, NY 10011

jimstreeteasy: about 3 years ago

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brianM: about 3 years ago

Do you know which 30 apts were all sold on one day? Most developers attorney's don't schedule more than 2-3 closings per day so this would have to indicate a bulk sale. Very interesting to know!

aboutready: about 3 years ago

about 30 properties all listed as sold on the same day in October, don't show closings for them yet. bulk sale to investor? anybody know?

brianM: about 3 years ago

Developer sketchy but I heard they are giving huge discounts to get rid of last of inventory. Don't be afraid to offer 30% less

walkedaway: about 3 years ago

how are sales in this building? i noticed the sales listings and it says that on oct 8th, about 30 apartments got sold. is the developer having issues closing? the closings started last year, but it looks like it is not fully closed yet. whats the status on this building?

westsider3: about 3 years ago

Westsider is in and warns people about this developer. Investigate the developer very closely. Ben Shoal has only a small piece of development. Check out principles of Ascend. One is Rob Kaliner. They are also doing Georgica. Not sure what financial problems they are faced with there.

jasonkyle: about 3 years ago

well i hope you never have to get 'nasty' like i did. although that was after months of homophobia directed at me from that poster who has since been banned for that reason.

NYrealestate: about 3 years ago

no I didn't. I guess I was too overwhelmed by that nasty argument that took most of this post so I didn't look at the date. Good enough. I guess he figured out that the black counters are not the worst thing ever.

jasonkyle: about 3 years ago

westsider closed on a unit here ages ago. did you not notice how old this thread was before you posted?

NYrealestate: about 3 years ago

Last but not least, when you see extremely discounted new construction, check the financial backing of the developer. Some of them are in real trouble and are offering huge discounts because they need cash to cover their loans. Very risky. This building is almost completed, 60-70% sold and much less risky.

NYrealestate: about 3 years ago

Hi Westsider. The Black counters and sinks are not the best in the world but should not be your key purchasing driver, they can be changed. They structural and location qualities are much more important for the future value of the apartment. This building is in a good location. Construction is pretty good. I don't know what unit you have looked at but I have seen better layouts in this building than most (and I have looked at hundreds of listings for over 1 Yr). Prices are flexible. Amenities are quite good, more family-friendly that most of Chelsea. Apartments are quite bright and some have a good view. It's not extremely West like others mentioned above and close to subways. 22nd is a quieter street, while the O'Neill and 650 6th are VERY loud, I can guarantee you. I wouldn't discount it so fast and I wouldn't really listen to most comments. Just make a list of what matters for you and compare the listings in a price range you can afford along those dimensions

133res: about 4 years ago

i agree that the shiny black kitchen counter tops are cheezy and very 80's! the polished black granite kitchen counter can be made to look more modern (and in keeping with the rest of the kitchen) by having it honed (matte finish) & sealed by a marble professional, which is what i did for $600. it makes a huge difference. it doesn't show fingerprints and smudges.

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

westsider3, don't be all holier than thou. If you were really serious, you would have done 3 minutes worth of research and found that discussion already existed and continued with that one.

westsider3: about 4 years ago

Wow, what a difference a night makes. Cannot believe I woke up to this insane argument between "ebutterfly" and "jasonkyle." I simply was looking for guidance about 133 W 22nd. I am very interested in a unit there and besides the usual construction problems in new buildings, I wanted to know if anyone else had experience with this building. I truly don't care about the size of the bathroom sinks. What does one do in a sink? I brush my teeth, so I don't care if the sinks are a bit shallow. As far as the color of the kitchen counters, thx for your opinion. Black doesn't bother me and if it does in the future, I can change them. Overall the kitchen is very nice including the cabinets and the appliances. I'd much prefer this kitchen over any other ones I have seen. 240 PAS also has nice finishes, but unfortunately many of the apts there don't get much light.

Hope you guys stop going at it. I'd really like to keep this to discussions on 133 W 22nd

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

oh look we both are giving up and going to bed at the same time. how cute. til next time. xoxo

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

it must be sad for you because you clearly can't get past it. you should find a 12 step program so you can move on with your life. i am going to bed now with my incredibly successful partner. so feel free to try and do that moving on now, or post more inanity. whatever you prefer.

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

goodnight, kisses jason.

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

is the end of july in two months? i didn't realize the calendar worked like that.

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

it's so sad that you keep bringing up our original discussion. who else would care so much about that but the broker of the unit. you are making it so obvious i don't even have to point out who you are anymore. do you not see that no one else in the world would be talking about this 2 and a half months later on threads that have nothing to do with it. you defended your tactic on two separate threads about that unit. one i didn't even have anything to do with starting.

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

oh right, I suppose your porch is swept. You worry about $1000 price changes but don't even have steady work, aren't even looking in Tribeca, and aren't even in that price range.

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

i wasn't outraged. i thought it was a dumb tactic to raise and lower your old stinky unit 1000 dollars just so it could pop up as new when it wasn't. i also don't think your tactic worked cause your unit is still on the market even now that you finally have had a real reduction. let's not worry about my career when clearly you should be focusing on your own.

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

It looks like "I" have two listings for sale and two listings for rent. What about you? How's your latest success at "work"?

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

lol, what kind of career could you possibly have? you have no judgment skills. no ability to differentiate important from trivial.

And then, you come up with statements like "you take everything so literally. i forgot you have no sense of humor." but you are the one who was "outraged" over a transparent price change on an apartment (that was outside of your search area) of $1000.

Where is this so-called partner of yours now?

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

and what do you have anything to add to this discussion? have you seen the building? what are your thoughts? you like new devs right? have you sold either of the units you have at 200 chambers yet?

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

oh you take everything so literally. i forgot you have no sense of humor. i have a career. i do have an incredibly successful partner as well. who do you have in your life?

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

We also know you aren't a buyer. No "buyer" has proven himself less serious than you. This is hardly more than a high school project for you.

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

you keep talking about "my" career. What about your career? You've acknowledged that your boyfriend is the breadwinner and all you do is search on streeteasy and pretend you are a buyer, but yet you've gotten nowhere on anything. In any case, must be pretty embarassing to be a stay-at-home

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

i engage in threads on here all the time with lots of different people about different things. you only come on here to attack me. i think more people here will believe what i say than you. i hope for your career enough people don't care either way.

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

when did i say i was ashamed about anything. you are really reaching now. do you have reading comprehension issues. the comment you made was disgusting based on the language you used and your assumptions. not based on what i do in real life or who i am.

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

my contribution vs. your insight about shallow sinks being your main criticism of a new development.

hmm, you've still failed to prove that Ebutterfly is Laura Cau. Even though you want to pretend everyone believes your opinions, you have no proof, and frankly your opinions are as shallow as the sinks at 133 West 22nd Street and your original ideas as big as the price movements at 200 Chambers 12C.

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

fighting with ben shaoul by mentioning a huge article about him in the observer? or telling someone to google him? fighting with a buyer at 133w22nd? who is buying there on this thread? he asked for opinions. i don't like it and i stand by that. what is your contribution to streeteasy except to show up and post only on threads after me. we both know who you are. i don't really have to prove it to anyone. that's the thing. i am an anonymous buyer and you are a broker who should realize this is a public forum. you have the most to lose here. you should move on with your life.

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

ps - why are you offended? What is offensive? Is truth offensive? Or is a misrepresentation offensive? Which is it?

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

You've said you are ashamed and embarassed about your "sexual position." I've never met you, let alone engage in sexual activity with you, so I really have no idea.

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

why do you think being me being gay equals me being ashamed? why do you even keep mentioning shame. you are really harping on that. do you not get that it is not working for you? do you not see how repeatedly asking such nonsense is offensive? you made a couple of stupid homophobic comment and they all got deleted. get over it. no one is going to repost them or repeat them for you.

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

You start fights with anyone. Fighting with Ben Shaoul, fighting with buyers at 133 West 22nd, fighting over a $1000 change in a listing price.

Also, offer one piece of proof that I am a broker or have anything to do with real estate whatsoever?

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

laura you only post on threads i post on and you only come to start fights with me. i am one buyer who will buy soon and then never be in this world again. you are a broker and this is your livelihood. you should stop behaving like this on here and protect your future. i am worried for you.

Ebutterfly: about 4 years ago

jasonkyle
because we exchanged emails offline laura.

And the text of the email says that Ebutterfly is Laura Cau? Or the text of the email simply defends the marketing practice? I've never defended or degraded the marketing practice. Only degraded you for being so sensitive over nothing. Like how your time is "wasted" because the price changes by $1000. Or the sinks are too shallow.

As for your "sexual position" and your shame, post any link to a statement about your sexual position and then help me understand why you'd view that sexual position as something you'd be ashamed about?

jasonkyle: about 4 years ago

you said what you thought my sexual position must be one certain way based on my posts. i never took it to that level nor will i know. no one here is ashamed of anything except you probably of your own behavior.