Sessanta...is a scam

bowen1972: about 8 weeks ago

Sessanta is a nightmare. fridge was frozen for 2months and the super so lazy wouldnt fix it. then the toilet clogged and it took 2 days to get help. had to temporarily move out. the other issue is dog facility next door so many dogs are walked in front of building so shit is literally everywhere. they dont clean or disinfect so its extremely dirty.

kristiem: about 4 months ago

the building is not well kept at all either! we live in a neighboring condo building and were lured in to some open houses by the cheaper rents but one look in the lobby and common spaces it was obvious they dont take pride in this building AND nickel and dime residents. pass!! we ended up renewing in our current building.

btw..if it takes you 15 mins to walk to columbus circle from here...i feel bad for you. 5-8 mins at most walking at a normal pace.

huntersburg: about 4 months ago

>Yup, they're crooks. Charge for EVERYTHING....the gym, washer/dryer in apartment, the tennis court.

All of this was hidden from the lease you signed?

dave201: about 4 months ago

Yup, they're crooks. Charge for EVERYTHING....the gym, washer/dryer in apartment, the tennis court. NO shuttle to Columbus Circle like neighboring apartment buildings have either.

JeanetteHay: about 8 months ago

It's important that you are comfortable with the surroundings of your new home before you move in. paying a little extra to avoid a possible scam is a good idea, especially when you have described the neighbourhood in such a bad light.

NuttinsChanged: about 14 months ago

They are still offering free month rent .. 3/2012!! :) ... Should tell you why! Nearby rentals have an occupancy rate of >97% and this place is offering FREE month rent!

SessantRes4: about 21 months ago

I live here and totally agree with the previous comment by "scammed". We moved in before construction was finished, our lease is up next year and I can't wait to move. I would rather live in a smaller more expensive apartment that to deal with the poor service and staff here. An example: just got a building wide notice today that the valet will only hold packages for 72 hours and then return them to the sender??!!! What? really? It's unbelievable, I've never lived in a building with such a rediculous policy. Guess I won't be tipping the valet this hoiday, considering the low standard of service. Oh, and foget trying to get anything fixed in your apartment, it takes weeks for any of our requests to get processed. My best advice: Do not even consider living here, its just not worth it.

SCAMMED: about 22 months ago

Most unprofessional and disorganized rental building:
Lies about price.
Lies about availability.
Lack of full disclosure upon signing of lease.
Brokers scamming the building as well as the tenants.
I highly recommend avoiding this apartment rental as it is a complete waste of time and money. I also advise outside brokers to stay away from showing this apartment as it is a complete embarrassment and has the capacity to ruin credibility.

somewhereelse: about 2 years ago

> never seen a building with this type of top quality amenities

so you've seen 2 buildings ever? This and lincoln towers?
;-)

splaken: about 2 years ago

nyclincoln, you have got to be kidding. Both in neighborhood, and in your indifference to renting vs. buying.

Looking4more: about 2 years ago

Going back to fred12345 comment, "I am sure there will be plenty of retail in the area in 2010".

CAR RENTAL came into the neighborhood !!! Finally! After a mere year the area is blessed with such delightful facility :)

On the upset, the only close by eatery - without taking a cab or schlepping for 15 min - Flame diner - had closed its doors for renovations with no opening date in mind.

Sad, so sad :)

nyclincoln: about 3 years ago

never seen a building with this type of top quality amenities. Very happy that the adjacent connected condo building will utilize all these amenities complementary. Torn between buying at the condo or renting for a year to get a better feel for Lincoln Square.. Not used to the area as we are moving from downtown. Large difference but I see how Lincoln Square is truly the future of Manhattan's cultural neighborhood center..

dvshannow: about 3 years ago

apparently the 3 beds are all filled! so i guess they have found tennants willing to pay.

but....beware those tennants, it will be a bumpy first few months, there are big flooring issues. all floors need replacing.

jason10006: about 3 years ago

You can look on SE and see 31 3 bds doorman closer to the subway in the UWS

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/rentals/uws-manhattan/no_fee:0|price:6000-8000|beds:3|baths%3E=2|amenities:doorman

And 101 in Manhattan generally below 96th

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/rentals/manhattan/no_fee:0|price:6000-8000|beds:3|baths%3E=2|amenities:doorman

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

you can get a 3 bedroom in a nice building for that kind of money.

west64th: about 3 years ago

We looked at what is supposedly the "last" 3 bedroom available for rent this past weekend. They are offering 2 months free, but the base monthly is $7650! When I saw that nearly every floorboard showed signs of bowing in the rental office, I attributed it to a rush to finish that unit and the heavy foot traffic. But then the same thing was evident in the apartment we saw. The overall finish quality is below middling and the kitchen has absolutely no counter space, especially for a 3 bedroom. But my wife generally liked the floorplan, it is a true 3 bedroom.

I will say that the tennis court has more room in the alleys than just about any court in NYC. It's funny that the on site rental agent didn't mention anything about fees for the washer/dryer, gym, tennis, etc. Actually, it's only funny in the same way that $7650 is.

In the end, not a chance...

jason10006: about 3 years ago

Its not TERRIBLE if you frequent the parks along the WSH...but having lived btw 10th/11th a few blocks south, I can safely say its a 10-15 minute hike to any subway line, which SUCKS in August and February.

And the cross-town bus at 57th is slower than a granny in a walker. Literally, I used to keep track of how much faster old people walking moved versus the bus going to & from work.

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

> The future of Manhattan is Lincoln Square.

Anyone not shilling the building want to make that claim?

> ... is so close to Lincoln Center and Time Warner Center it is in the middle of 2 iconic places.

Ah, got it, someone who thinks Time Warner Center is an iconic place. Central Park, Lincoln Center, the Empire State Building, the Brooklyn Bridge, and... the Time Warner Center. You probably want to add Trump Tower in there.

Please update your tourist guides.

dvshannow: about 3 years ago

i agree, would not reccomend this building at the premium prices they are trying. Mainly as the service has proven to be awful. Without doing into details I would urge any potential renters to simply speak with a few of the current tennants before renting - this is not a happy building.

bigdude2000: about 3 years ago

i would have recommended this to others, but not at the prices they are currently trying to gouge from potential renters. they are now offering 2 months free versus 1 month free when i signed, but the monthly rent is substantially higher. at the prices they want, i would move back to my old location.

dvshannow: about 3 years ago

yes we have also had an issue with the floorboards, near the windows which are leaking. i could guess that this is due to the floor warping slightly hence the floorboards windows are affected - or its a coindicence.

location wise, my 2c, yes is not prime, but then you get the extra space and new building, that was clear payoff, but i would not recc this building to others based on our current experience

bigdude2000: about 3 years ago

wow, sounds like you read my mind when writing your post. I actually really enjoy living here... more space than i could have hoped to afford for the rent I am paying. But there have been growing pains with living in new construction. I suppose it could have been worse, but I've had to deal with the leaky window as well as other minor issues that you wouldn't deal with in an established building. Also, some of our floorboards are popping up, so not sure what's going on there. Lesson i've learned is to never move into a brand new (unfinished) building.

I haven't seen people moving out - is that from the old building or from the new building? I'll have to ask around...

I'm curious to see where the 67th and 72nd rentals price out. I saw somewhere that they are charging $3800 for 1 br. That's a steep premium over what sessanta charges. i'm hopeful the new units create some downward pricing pressure, but not counting on it, since i think they're competing more with the glenwood building. I'd love to move back to 67th, probably my favorite area in the city. you couldn't pay me to live at 72nd and broadway. i know it's "prime" and a great location, but i personally hate that part of the UWS. And i can't imagine that it's all that quiet if you have street facing windows.

dvshannow: about 3 years ago

move in late summer. just seen this forum. Few things ive noticed

1. Walk to TWC is a pain, more like 8mins, 10 with our slow dog.
2. Sound proofing is not the best, moved out of a new building (<4y old) which was a lot better
3. They are SLOW to finish construction - initial promise was by end of november. Seems there has been little progress, and still the parking is not available. Their latests completion dates now mean nothing to me.
4. Door staff are friendly, brokers have not been, super is friendly, but seems overwhelmed
5. Something going on? We have seen several move outs since we got here. And window leakage problems, which are a problem with the building settling. But heard it can be worse then a window leaking.
6. Space is great, we had a housewarming where friends were v impressed with the amount of space for a nyc apartment. However see 2. on soundproofing, we were asked to turn music at 10pm on a sat!

Wld appr to hear from anyone who has moved out, or is having problems.

Maxsfisher: about 3 years ago

My mom just reminded me that friends of our family purchased right next door at 225 West 60th Street which is Hudson Condos and upon a bit more research I see 10 West End Avenue and Element Condos built there in the past couple years so really the owners were the first to take the plunge. Maybe not such a bad area then to rent in upon further reflection.

apt23: about 3 years ago

I think it would make more sense to wait until the new building at 67th and amsterdam or the new building at 200 west 72nd street opens in february. both buildings are much more accessible to transport, civility, life. let's see what they price out at and then see how sessanta -- in the hinterlands-- reacts.

uwsstreets: about 3 years ago

I love this area. The future of Manhattan is Lincoln Square. Since this amazing building (next door condo is even more amazing!)is so close to Lincoln Center and Time Warner Center it is in the middle of 2 iconic places. Cant wait until the $1.3 billion restoration of Lincoln Center is finished next year!!!!

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

"is this location really any more out of the way than all those Trump buildings and Avery and Rushmore?"

Its not just out of the way, its next to the projects.

And, if you hadn't heard, trump is getting killed. They're now renting one bedrooms they can't sell for $2400.

NWT: about 3 years ago

No. It's two long blocks to Columbus Circle. Avery and Rushmore have more of a hike to 66th and B'way. At the northern end of Riverside Blvd, e.g. 220 and 240, it's 1.5 long blocks. The middle buildings, from 66th to 70th, feel isolated because of the Lincoln Towers barrier wall.

ppaine: about 3 years ago

Serious question, is this location really any more out of the way than all those Trump buildings and Avery and Rushmore?

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

Well, there is the rub. If its not important to you, don't pay for it.
We all have choices. Some people want to pay for more windows, or higher floors, or yoga rooms. They cost more, but you don't HAVE to pay it.

But pretending there is no value for anyone that should be paid for is nonsensical.

bigdude2000: about 3 years ago

it's a fair point. we moved in a 2 months ago. we still do the same things we did back when we lived on 67th and bway. same restaurants, same parks, same stores. yeah, on occasion, i b---h about the walk when i've just passed 67th and bway and realize that i have another 10 minutes to walk. i do wish we had better stuff right next door. right now, it sucks. and frankly, i don't see it getting any better anytime soon.

but then i remember i'm saving a ton versus what i could be paying, and i'm ok with it.

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

"i don't really have an issue - no one's ever bothered me, i walk home at night from work and feel pretty safe."

Agreed that safety isn't the only factor. Besides the "what other people will value" there is just the neighborhood effect. Forget whether or not you will be mugged, this will also influence what stores, restaurants, etc. will pop up around it. What the parks will look like, etc.

You don't have to get mugged for there to be a quality of life issue.

Otherwise, we'd all be looking for apartments in the projects.

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

Yes, but if a celebrity lives nearby, its ok, right?

;-)

bigdude2000: about 3 years ago

it just depends on how badly you don't want to live near a project. if i were buying, i probably wouldn't buy near a project, but mainly because i know a certain subset of the buyer base will not buy in that area. but, since i'm renting, i don't really have an issue - no one's ever bothered me, i walk home at night from work and feel pretty safe. i do expect lower rent, and i get it. to have the same unit in my old building (prime 60s UWS) would have cost me easily 1000 - 1500 more per month. i'll make that tradeoff all day.

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

Nice strawman.... besides the fact that you made up your claims, your post has nothing to do with the points made.

NowhereelsebutUWS: about 3 years ago

this goes to "somewhereelse"---what makes you such a real estate expert? you sound like you have something personal against the people who live in the "projects" or you are a condo owner that got ripped off on your sale. ive been living in the uws for a very long time and ive seen this area grow and its still growing. i noticed more families,well-established people, celebrities, and athletes moving to this neighborhood. i highly doubt if the neighborhood was that bad that families would come to the UWS to raise their children; these new developments are making this a more desirable area.

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

> low to moderate income buildings is not going to make a difference in a dynamic city like ours.

You have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about.

Proximity to projects has ALWAYS had a major effect on neighborhoods and values. Look at the corner of the UES closest to the projects, always a HUGE difference from the other spots. Or being behind the projects in chelsea. Or Fort Green.

Sorry, but this is just painfully wrong. Being near the projects has consistently been a major factor in the value of neighborhoods, particularly in declines.

fred12345: about 3 years ago

Manhattan is a small island that is ful of the rich the poor and the ugly. Its a melting pot and living near super luxury buildings and low to moderate income buildings is not going to make a difference in a dynamic city like ours. Someone said it best, if you dont like the diversity and the 6 min walk to the subway then pack your shite ans move to the suburbs.

I love this part of Lincoln Square and it will only improve as the retail picks up... The construction and design quality at the adjacent condo building is much nicer at the Adagio so if you can find a unit owner that is looking to lease I am going to shoot to move there....

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

> The neighborhood projects: You cant avoid low income housing in nyc...dont be ridiculous.

Moronic. You can't avoid them... but that doesn't mean you should aim to live in them or right next door. Jeez.

Every town has a garbage dump, too. That doesn't mean you buy the plot next door.

Moronic.

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

"I agree, all of you on streeteasy critical of Sessanta are just losers. Sessanta is the best. Earlier I logged in and tried to be really nice about how Sessanta is great,"

Is this person a complete moron, or just a third grader?