Sneaking pets into co-op

jim_hones10: about 15 months ago

aboutready
about 22 months ago
ignore this person
report abuse "they're pretty vile" sounds like a strong feeling. but you don't kill them.

bgrfrank, yes, do tell. how exactly did you get rid of it.

"I'm struggling to determine how this discussion of this cat continues to be relevant to the rule breaking."

your logic is beyond bad.

whenever i read an old post with aboutready's comments in it, i feel so glad that stupid cow has been put out to pasture.

Squid: about 15 months ago

What's the point of buying into a co-op if you're just gonna flout the bylaws? Either get rid of the cats or don't purchase in a no-pets building. It's not rocket science.

NYCmodern: about 15 months ago

Cats are a lot harder to hide than you'd think, so I hope you were honest with the board. Youd efinitely don't want to start off on the wrong foot as a shareholder. Kudos to everyone on this thread who replied that they successfully sneaked in a cat or dog, but I personally wouldn't try it. There rule exists for a reason which most likely includes the majority of shareholders not wanting to hear or smell an animal nearby.

NativeRestless: about 15 months ago

I would think long and hard before sneaking pets into a no pets building no matter how good a value. Even cats are not undetectable. How are you going to get rid of the cat food cans and kitty litter boxes? If the staff and management is truly on pet patrol they will look at what's being recycled for exactly that kind of thing. What happens when its time to go to the vet if there is a doorman/security guard/nosy neighbor? I am sure that something just as good will come your way where all of you can live openly and in peace and not in East New York either. Hang in there.

mchaban: about 15 months ago

Hermie31,

Did you ever go through with it? My wife and I have two cats, and we're thinking of kids at some point. Like you, I imagine, this place is a killer deal, in terms of space, location, etc. Otherwise, a two-bedroom in our price range would be in East New York or Coney Island. I exaggerate, but you get the point.

So, how'd it go? Give it a shot, or did you just walk? Thanks.

lizyank: about 3 years ago

I don't smoke and haven't for almost 20 years..

And I'm not equating Rosa Parks with objecting to co-op board rules (if I did I would have a washer/dryer)...I am equating an attitude of the "Rules Are The Rules and Must Be Maintained By Any Means Necessary Above All Else". I do not condone sneaking pets into a "no pets" building as I told the original poster unless its a rule so flagrantly violated (ala Sty Town in the 80s/90s early 00s) as to be a complete joke. In fact my advice to the original poster above, was very much against purchasing in a no pets building with pets.

What I condemn, and continue to condemn in the strongest possible terms is brgfrank's acting as judge, jury and executioner for his neighbor's cat rather than allowing her time to deal with the situation in a compassionate manner.

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

aboutready, I sincerely doubt that the cat will reincarnate as a cockroach, but that's interesting way of thinking.

lizyank, I'm going to echo somewhereelse. After your sillyness regarding the karma monster coming to get me, now you equate Rosa Parks to disagreeing with a co-op board about pets. THAT is feeble minded. Maybe you aren't meek, rather one of those brass ballsy loud-mouth busty busy body ladies with a smoker's voice, but that doesn't raise your intellect, so I stand by feeble minded: Rosa Parks, Mother of the Modern-Day Civil Rights Movement = cat owner violating a co-op's rules?

somewhereelse: about 3 years ago

"Since Frankie likes historical references I will remind him that Rosa Parks was "breaking the rules". Does that mean she should have sat at the back of the bus?"

Yes, violating the rules of a co-op YOU CHOSE and going against the wishes of the folks who CHOSE to live in a pet dander-free building is just like civil rights.

I'm going to refuse to pay for my sandwich today. I'm rosa parks, too.

RE2009: about 3 years ago

i was the first to be critical of hermie re sneaking in a pet and at one point there was a snarky comment about living next to me.... but holy cr-p hurting an animal because their owner broke a rule!!!! bgrfrank is either screwing with us (i hope so) or a certifiable NUT!! hurting an innocent creature because it's owner broke a rule... i can even speak about horrible it is to hurt an innocent life.
hurting an animal is as bad as hurting a child, they are both totally helpless.
i hope bgrfrank is just being an idiot.

lizyank: about 3 years ago

Since Frankie likes historical references I will remind him that Rosa Parks was "breaking the rules". Does that mean she should have sat at the back of the bus?

In terms of saving the world, obviously its going to take more than the tooth fairy to get that job done so long as there are people like you.

And btw I've been called a lot of things in my life, some of them not so pleasant, but "meek" and "feeble minded" are new to me, and I would imagine anyone who knows me--even people on this board--would strongly suggest that they are way off the mark as accurate descriptives.

moxieland: about 3 years ago

ar,
he's already a cockroach

aboutready: about 3 years ago

moxie, he'll probably reincarnate as a cockroach and survive nuclear armageddon.

moxieland: about 3 years ago

i work with animals. As i sit here with my two cats and pug i agree that there is no scummier action in the world than to abuse animals. i was only trying to taunt lilfrankie into revealing how much of a psychotic he is. i don't know if he will pay a karmic debt but i know he should.

hermie31: about 3 years ago

All that matters is that a good neighbor - not to mention a good person - would not have done that.

aboutready: about 3 years ago

moxie, that's what i thought. but let's let the big boy explain, don't you think? the horse's mouth (or ass) and all that.

moxieland: about 3 years ago

haven't u all figured it out by now?
lilfrankie(his wives name for him) did nothing to a cat...

aboutready: about 3 years ago

"they're pretty vile" sounds like a strong feeling. but you don't kill them.

bgrfrank, yes, do tell. how exactly did you get rid of it.

"I'm struggling to determine how this discussion of this cat continues to be relevant to the rule breaking."

your logic is beyond bad.

RE2009: about 3 years ago

how did you get rid of it

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

There was no longer a violation afterwards.

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

There was no longer a violation afterwards.

RE2009: about 3 years ago

you are the one that mentioned it...
how did you get rid of it?

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

I'm struggling to determine how this discussion of this cat continues to be relevant to the rule breaking.

Michael427: about 3 years ago

Not so much that I dislike babies, I have no feeling for them one way or another. But let's face it, they're pretty vile and I would not like to live next door to one.

RE2009: about 3 years ago

bgrfrank... how did you "get rid" of the cat?

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

No problem

aboutready: about 3 years ago

No that isn't what I meant

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

You mean is Michael actually the Karma monster?

aboutready: about 3 years ago

Did Michael kill one?

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

I'm not sure how I solve that problem for you. But I guess according to lizyank, you will be punished by a magical invisible karma for disliking babies.

Michael427: about 3 years ago

I'd live with cats a lot sooner than I'd live near an apartment with a filthy, screaming, smelly baby. Cats are very clean and usually pretty quiet. I won't even look at an apartment if I see a crib in it, that's a deal breaker.

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

Lizyank, so you liken a cat to all of the people killed by Pol Pot?

I'm merely saying you are meek, weak of will, and generally feeble minded because you believe some karma cat ot the tooth fairy is here to save the world.

Why didnt you say karma would have dealt with that cat owner for breaking the rules?

lizyank: about 3 years ago

hey brgfrank you forgot Pol Pot and a few Rwandans....and if that if the company you see yourself in, you've said nothing on this board to make us dispute it.

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

Hermie, lizyank wants karma to deal with all of the world's problems, which isn't working out too well for the unemployed, or sexual slaves, or people facing genocide in Africa, etc.
But your logic is that someone is breaking the rules, so as a reward the Board of the co-op should meet at its next regular meeting in a month and grant that person additional time to live in the building with a prohibited animal. Nice. Meanwhile in that period of time the owner figures out a new surreptitious way to keep the cat, and probablyu just ensures that the cat doesn't wander out, which is the only way it was caught to begin with. Problem not solved.
As for the property question, well it would be hard to say that it was actually anyone's property, right, since after all no one in the building was permitted to have it. See the problem for the "owner"?

Washer / Dryer, no, I did not break in. I also didn't break in and take the cat, it was in the public areas (another argument against it being someone's property). In that instance I did deal with the co-op board and threatened an audit on our water bills as well as our annual plumbing costs. Since no one on the board was around long enough to have had a washer / dryer on their own, they were sympathetic.

Ultimately because of misbehavior by people like this, co-op living isn't ideal and I'm now happy in a two family brownstone.

Midtowngal, what other posts are you referring to?

midtowngal: about 3 years ago

bgrfrank... holly cr-p you need some serious help, starting with anger management. while wrong to have a cat you don't "get ride of it" , what if she was watching the cat for someone for the afternoon. And if it was her cat give her a chance to find it a home, What did you do with it??
as for you other posts, you have serious issues.

hermie31: about 3 years ago

bgrfrank- What is the rule in your co-op for when someone breaks a rule? Is it to report it to the board for them to act on? Or is it to take care of it yourself, even if it involves stealing someone else's property? (I don't agree with it, but pets are legally considered property.) I'm curious how you got rid of the washer/dryer-- did you break into your neighbor's apartment and physically remove it?

lizyank is absolutely right about how you acted.

bgrfrank: about 3 years ago

karma?

When do those people killed by Hitler, Stalin, Hussein, bin Laden, Dahmer, Bundy, etc. get karma back?

wavedeva: about 3 years ago

"wavedeva - can you let me know the buildings you were a board member on so I know never to look there? Guess its the difference between "allows pets" and "pet friendly." Atomic life of cat dander; my God."...

@calnver - No worries, the condo was in Boston. I've only been a board member once--that was enough. My favorite part was walking through an inch of water with a plumber when the boiler room flooded and water was raining down on the Penthouse unit below. In the wee hours of the morning, of course.

NYCMatt: about 3 years ago

"people who don't tip at Christmas raising the burden for the rest of us"

What "burden" would that be?

Is your building staff not getting regular salaries?

aboutready: about 3 years ago

not all evils are equal.

lizyank: about 3 years ago

Bgrfrank you acted despicably and potentially criminally when your found your neighbor's cat and "got rid of it". Yes, rules are rules are should not be broken but does this violation deserve the death penalty with no effort to find another solution. Perhaps if your neighbor had been given a deadline, she could have found a an alternate home for her cat with a friend/relative/colleague or through a no-kill rescue group. You may not care for cats but for many of us they are beloved members of the family. I hope that no one ever treats someone you love the way you treated your neighbor's cat...but karma has a way.