Nordstrom to Midtown West

alanhart: about 11 months ago

I agree with Truth about OP's question.

Also about how you're dressed vis a vis service level. Add shopping bags from a couple of well-known shops and you'll have the salespersons all over you as soon as you step foot in the door.

Truth: about 11 months ago

Back to the OP question: No. It won't increase property values.

and huntersburg: in some of those higher-end stores you will get better attention from salespeople if you are well-dressed. Walk in dressed-down and the service isn't as good.
That's the truth.

huntersburg: about 11 months ago

Customer service there is no different than any NYC higher end store where the salespeople work on commission. That level of service is less common in the burbs, hence the"loyalty". So they come to New York, and who really cares.

jason10006: about 11 months ago

Nordstrom has such loyalty because the customer service is out of this world. And despite what ieb says, there clearly is a space for something between macy's and bloomingdales.

And I made the mistake of ungraying alanhart. Never again. But to respond to his BS - here the stock chart over the last 5 years of Nordstrom versus Macy's. With Saks thrown in for good measure. Nordie's stock has done a lot better than either.

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=JWN+Interactive#symbol=jwn;range=5y;compare=m+sks;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;

And May same-store sales were up by more at Nordie's than Macy's.

And all this from someone who prefer's Bloomingdales (owned by Macy's) to either.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120531-709212.html

downtown1234: about 11 months ago

Regardless of my thoughts on Nordstom, I admit it has a very loyal following (more so than almost any retail store I can think of other than perhaps Barney's). And regardless of whether I would shop there, I would love to see one in my neighborhood (FiDi). It's like a Whole Foods - it attracts other stores wherever it goes. When the retail center in final takes shape at WTC and WFC, I'd like to see a Nordstrom. I read that the retail developer is planning on 1-2 large department stores.

alanhart: about 11 months ago

According to the Wikipedia:

Erik Nordstrom, president of stores at Nordstrom stated, "... unfortunately our business has declined over the long term for some time and despite our efforts to turn things around we don't see the outlook significantly changing."

ieb: about 11 months ago

The only good thing to say about Nordstrom is that the sales peple are less gross than Needless Markup.

Nordstrom's space is between Macy's and Blooningdales - pretty usless.

Truth: about 11 months ago

fashionable is exactly the word. Not to be mistaken for stle or stylish which is different.

Fashions change each season every year. What's old eventually comes back into fashion, with modifications in colors, fabrics and fit. Those changes are what drive the fashion industry.

Style is an individual choice of quality over trendy. A personal signature look and way of putting outfits together.

jason's gay pride look in 1998 was very fashionable and high end at that time. Worth money now if he still has it in good condition. Wardrobe depts.of t.v. and movie production pay big $ for those items.

You don't know jack about fashion or style. but what else can one expect from an old, envious, abusive, drunken gnome.

alanhart: about 11 months ago

I'm not so sure “fashionable“ would be the right word for what you just described.

huntersburg: about 11 months ago

What logo do you have on your retard helmet?

jason10006: about 11 months ago

And you have it exactly backwards downtown. I was a Carrie. A label whore. The boys at Saks, Versace, and Nieman Marcus used to set things aside for me unprompted because I came in so much. I spent more on clothes than everything else combined. The Tommy Hilfiger red white and blue jeans custome made for the Aaliyah "Hot Like Fire" video? They made fifty pair. TOTAL. ON EARTH - I had a pair.

Which i only wore twice.

Gay pride 1998 I remember distinctly wearing a $1000 silver leather Calvin Klien ( not CK - the main line) jacket, a $300 semi-sheer silver-intend powder blue Versace polo shirt, my black Gucci belt, silver and black Jean Paul Gaultier snakeskin pattern jeans, and black rubber soles Ferragamo shoes.

Other than the shoes and belt I wore each of those maybe three tea total.

I had more Versace, D&G, Gucci, Hermes, Polo Purple label, etc. than I did common sense.

I was way TOOO fashionable.

huntersburg: about 11 months ago

Hey Jason, loosen your retard helmet a little, it's limiting your oxygen flow

jason10006: about 11 months ago

Exactly RS.

columbiacounty: about 11 months ago

Wow. Will they feature that in their ads?

Truth: about 11 months ago

The best thing about the new Nordstrom will be that they won't have the abusive drunken gnome shopping there.

huntersburg: about 11 months ago

>No, you fucktard,

What is a fucktard? I'm not even sure it is illegal for mentally impaired people like Jason to be having intercourse. Or at least it shouldn't be. They have no capacity to consent, and if they have offspring, I mean, do we really need that?

>jason - Brooks Brothers is a big step up from Nordstrom.

I agree with Riversider - I'm not so sure about the accuracy of your POV on that.

>Do you suppose Nordstrom will have the same merchandising in their Hells Kitchen vicinity

Hells Kitchen vicinity?

alanhart: about 11 months ago

And some of Brooks Brothers' customers are probably cross-dressers.

Do you suppose Nordstrom will have the same merchandising in their Hells Kitchen vicinity location that they have in their stores on the mainland? I mean before they decide to close the store or turn it into a clearance outlet.

Riversider: about 11 months ago

Brooks Brothers is safer and more conservative, but a step up? I'm not sure. Nordstrom's carries many brands. Some of their customers are probably cross-overs.

downtown1234: about 11 months ago

jason - Brooks Brothers is a big step up from Nordstrom. If you don't get it, you don't get it. It's ok. Nothing wrong with not being stylish. Not everybody can be.

jason10006: about 11 months ago

"jason10006 - I bet you look great in your chinos and tasseled loafers..."

No, you fucktard, they have two seperate mens areas in their LA and SF stores. A convervative menswear section and a trendy area that it similar to the basement at Bloomingdales at 59th. I.e. all sorts of 7 jeans and d-squared type of overpriced trendy fashions. And show dept reflects both. Its not as good as Bloomingdales mens section, but its not all Brooks Brothers style clothing.

Truth: about 11 months ago

yeah, hilarious banter from alanhart.

huntersburg: about 11 months ago

Not exactly.

uwsbeagle: about 11 months ago

Gertz. Just googled it. Funny.

Truth: about 11 months ago

Shut up you drunken gnome.
You came back to se pretending that you didn't troll me with your relentless lies.
Now if anybody doubted that you were lying -- they know now that you were.
The lies, threats, trolling interference on every thread discussion that I posted a comment on.
You don't even have the sense to be embarassed about your infantile behavior.

Fuck off.

alanhart: about 11 months ago

words of wisdom from a Gertz gal

Truth: about 11 months ago

anyway,
back to the longest discussion I've ever had with a guy about shopping:
There is better stock in Manhattan stores (dept. and discount).
The Century in Manhattan has more high end designers and frequent incoming stock than the Century in Brooklyn.

The stores (dept. and mid range, discount), are crowded during weekdays at lunch hours 12-2pm. Those aren't Manhattanites who can shop at their leisure without crowds during the weekend. They are commuters. I know because they are dressed in office attire, as opposed to tourist attire.

and most moms would agree that shopping for themselves while shlepping the kids is not easy.

Truth: about 11 months ago

Of course!

Socialist: about 11 months ago

"What would you prefer to be in that location?"

An indoor ski slope of course!

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/2011/07/01/state-bailout-gives-indoor-skiing-in-new-jersey-new-life/

Truth: about 11 months ago

If I live in N.J. but work and have friends in Manhattan --we ladies go shopping in Manhattan.
Maybe shopping for family's clothing in N.J. but that's about it.

We shop all over high end to low and mid range price points.
Go to several different stores to shop for one outfit.

lucillebluth: about 11 months ago

there is a pretty good century in morristown

huntersburg: about 11 months ago

That's because you live in NY. But if you live in NJ, you aren't going to Nordstrom in Manhattan.
This isn't Century 21.

Truth: about 11 months ago

and females shop with friends and co-workers as a social activity.

Truth: about 11 months ago

huntersburg: I could have saved lots of sales tax money if I had shopped in N.J. instead but I never have.

Truth: about 11 months ago

You underestimate the power of female lunch hour shoppers.
The upscale boutiques and Bergdorfs are full of tourists. They come into Nobu to eat with shopping bags from T.J.Maxx on 57th and 8th mixed in with Bergdorfs shopping bags. The high-low shopping evidence.

Socialist: because they don't have to shlepp the kids. Gives them a chance to shop with co-workers.
The same reason people go out for a drink in Manhattan before going to Penn or Grand Central.
They can wait until they get home but then they're home and somebody is waiting for dinner or whatever family life activity is going on.

I'm only reporting what I observed from so many years of shopping in the city. Walking on 57th street.
Will it be a big hit and be in that location forever? Who knows maybe not.

What would you prefer to be in that location?

huntersburg: about 11 months ago

Not to mention, in New Jersey, Governor Chris Christie's state, there's no sales tax on clothing.

Socialist: about 11 months ago

Why will commuters from the suburbs shop there when every suburb has already had a Nordstorm's for the last gazillion years?

huntersburg: about 11 months ago

Commuters will not be shopping there.
Tourists, yes, but that's a limiting strategy.

Truth: about 11 months ago

Shoppers in Manhattan don't all live there.
Commuters from the boros and beyond will shop there.The ladies get their paycheck on Friday and want to buy a bathing suit or whatever.
Tourists will like it.

huntersburg: about 11 months ago

>Nordstrom is a step above Macy's.

They may not do well in Manhattan. Manhattan's about either cheap, or expensive luxury. Not "what people from the midwest with their Coach handbags call 'high-end'."

Truth: about 11 months ago

I don't know about the menswear. But I was happy to shop there and found things to buy.
I already buy high-end and I'm not from the midwest. Own over 100 bags, not one of them Coach.