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You have to ask yourself if you can deal with the crowd. Guessing it is worth 15-25 percent discount to the rest of Soho if your only entrance is from Broadway. Windows facing broadway is no big deal if you can enter on Mercer.
My take on it is that there is a relative discount to lofts on broadway vs. other streets in Soho. Many of the units i've seen on broadway only have windows on one side of the unit, versus other units on smaller streets having windows on both ends of the loft. However, because the rent on the ground floor is so lucrative on Broadway, the maintenance in these buildings is also lower than other Soho streets. The increased windows sort of balance the lower maintenance other out in a way.
Since the unit you looked at had a lot of light, maybe your unit has windows on both ends?
Anyways, I dont think all Soho lofts are the same (obviously). You have some that are walk-ups, some with elevators, some with large retail spaces in the ground floor, some with lots of natural light, noisy streets, odd floorplans with columns, shorter lofted bedrooms, artist in residence etc.
I was looking at a place in Soho and wondered: Would buying a loft on Broadway in Soho be foolish because of the crowds and traffic?
The light is much better with the wide avenue, but I worry it won't stack up against the appeal of cobblestone streets and quiet in a competitive market. Or am I over-thinking this and a soho loft is a soho loft?
tell us why you were at rolling stone magazine's offices, or those of sirius--please--stop holding out--and carnegie hall...radio city....do tell---im sure there were stars involved--my panties are soaked
help....tell!!!!! or just throw us a snippet or two
I moved to Hamilton Heights last year and I live on the West side of HH near Riverside Drive by the 145th 1 station. Walking around, you can definitely feel the neighborhood changing in terms of diversity. This is a neighborhood heavy with artists and musicians but, as property prices continue to increase, it is also increasingly becoming a hub for young professionals.
In terms of your question, there's quite a few families who live in my building and they have no complaints -- large apartments, diversity. I can see how this is a prime neighborhood for families, as it's close to Riverbank State Park and there are shopping options -- Key Food, C Town, and Fairway if you're up for a walk.
One thing that most people tend to complain about in HH is noise and loud radio playing from cars. However, note that most buildings in HH are pre-war (thick walls) so it isn't much of an issue unless you are outside.
Other than that, I highly recommend this neighborhood. Whether you're moving in a family, living by yourself, or looking to invest.
apartments rent in less than a month - renting during the summer months will most likely mean a higher rate and a better quality tenant.
Apartments in townhomes often rent for a premium - something really nice about having that New York experience for so many.... one beds will rent for north of $1,500 and two beds north of $2,000.
PS Jazzman - the other question i had - we are only looking at properties that we can have a rental income - how easy was it to find a tenant and a good one. And what could a 1 bedroom or 2 bedroom get in rent?
Thanks again everyone. We are stil looking and have been researching the area extensively! In my opinion it does seem like HH, specifically around Convent ave is on a steady incline. But I also thinks it takes a certain person to live in that area if they have the means to buy a 2 mill property. There are a lot of misconceptions about Harlem, even born and bred New Yorkers. By certain person, I mean someone who is open minded and maybe just a little bit of a visionary because there are still blocks that aren't that great. But our overall opinion is super positive - lots of the same things were said about Brooklyn (Park Slope) and UWS in the 80's. I do think it is a personal choice and decision, I want our kids to be in a truly diverse neighborhood, the other big draw is the feeling of space, maybe it is because the area is up and on a hill like terrain, it just feels like you can breath and leave midtown and the chaos behind. I digress!
Which one has more methadone clinics?
No more about controlling and trickling out inventory to get more $ per sq ft.
An art perfected by Related at the Caledonia.
Anyway now with the scaffolding down, it is a pretty building to look at.
Where are units #15B & PH6? Neither one has yet hit the market or shown a closing...insider buys, perhaps?
Does anyone have any info on when this buildings work is complete.
It has been for 2 years just about the ugliest thing chelsea's skyline has to offer.
I can't stand to spend another summer looking at this scaffolding!
Without question - Brownsville, Brooklyn.
Still moderately priced real estate, with multiple dying options; definitely worth taking a stab at.
surprised no one said lincoln center.. it's wheelchair braggadocio..
rollable to the shows at the met/ ballet at koch theater.. your aging pals from boca will emptily talk up the sun while they secretly curse their ungrateful kids for putting them up in a spiritless, humid strip mall in FL to save a buck on their own midtown reno, while you get to motorize scooter to central park just 2 blocks away in all your glory.. not overly hip as HK to the south, or overly aged as UWS to the north, a good mix, subways galore
I'd be in the Far West Village
Flatiron is probably my #1 favorite neighborhood for many of the above reasons mentioned (great architecture, restaurants, you can walk pretty much to everything, the east/west thing isn't such a big deal since you're in the center, etc.).
But frankly, if I didn't have to COMMUTE, I'd probably live in Bay Ridge.
The sales prices of the apartments reflect the downsides. But it's a perfectly pleasant building in a really convenient spot.
At the end, what steered us away from the building is that the financials of the building do not look great. They do not have much in capital reserves for a building of this size. If some unforseen issue comes up in the building, there will be large assessments for sure.
It's a very nice building with reasonable maintenance and a lovely lobby. Rear apartments are very quiet, rooms are spacious and the wood floors are beautiful. It's a good alternative in a high priced neighborhood, and the subway is right around the corner. Great restaurants abound on 53rd. St., etc.
All front facing apartments face have very little sunlight due to the post office.
It's nice to be able to walk to work, but basing where you live on that is just silly. Transport in NYC is great and taking the subway is part of the fun. Don't live in Tribeca, it is deadsville and yes you have easy access to work, but not so easy to the rest of NYC. Try and find something more central so you can easily explore the city when you aren't working. I'd look around GV, WV as top choices. And try and be below 14th st if you can.
If you want a walk to work and an interesting neighborhood, try Chinatown. Chelsea and especially Tribeca are full of rich newcomers (and I realize that this description may fit you as well) which make them rather dull. Chinatown is real NY.
I‘m still here! Didn't know my post got alive. Thanks to everyone for your suggestion.
We've visited some buildings in both neighborhoods. Chelsea does have better access to other parts of Manhattan and more things to do. Tribeca is quieter and higher-end and offers the benefits of walking to work. I know we couldn't get everything we want. Still, a hard decision to make!
another year and you're still here.
At least the pedicabs don't poop in the street...
But squid, tourists are essential to New York's economy.
What are thoughts on the Medium Term price level of Tribeca lofts? The bullish thesis is that :
* The Freedom tower is almost complete which will lead to an influx of professionals working/living in the neighborhood.
* Brookfield place is going to open soon, adding another level of activity to the WFC area.
* There are a number of very expensive properties being developed like the Sterling Mason Building and 56 Leonard Street (not to mention 250 West Street).
Will these 3 factors have a positive impact on real-estate prices in Tribeca over the next 1-5 years?
NO. That's not it.
Hudson Heights (the part of Washington Heights in the 180s/190s, Cabrini, Pinehurst, etc.) is a nice neighborhood. Plenty of good restaurants, very walkable. Gorgeous pre-war co-op buildings. Many apartments have sweeping river views. Close to the Cloisters museum. Family-friendly, quiet, and safe neighborhood.
Similarly, the nice part of Inwood (Park Terrace East/West area) is gorgeous. A little cheaper than Hudson Heights because it's further from downtown. Also the apartments lack river views, and there are fewer amenities in the neighborhood than in WaHi.
The Concourse area near Yankee Stadium has tremendous potential for the reasons you mention. Prices are significantly lower, however, because of a few major factors:
1. Lack of amenities. Sure there are plenty of fast food places near the Stadium. But where would you go for a nice sit-down dinner?
2. Lack of neighborhood feel. The nice part of the neighborhood is concentrated between E156 and E165, from the East River to the Grand Concourse. Step outside those bounds, and watch out!!! But even within the neighborhood, it doesn't have the same feel as Hudson Heights or the nice part of Inwood. I think this is probably changing, but that's where it is right now.
3. It's the Bronx. The Bronx's reputation from the 1970's still pollutes peoples' minds.
The Bedford Park/Mosholu Parkway area is beautiful but kinda sleepy. It's nicer than the Concourse area and the apartments are just as huge. I love art deco style!!! Just a little bit too far from the city for my taste. I have explored the area near 3131 Grand Concourse (I was curious, because that building contained the cheapest apartment listing on Streeteasy at one point, I believe it was $50,000 for a studio). Like the Concourse area there are no restaurants, bars, etc. besides fast food. Everything just seemed dead. And I was there in the middle of the day on a Saturday. Nothing seemed "wrong" with the neighborhood though. Just not what I'm used to in Hudson Heights. I think this neighborhood has less potential than Concourse because 1) it's further from the city 2) the metro north train is on the eastern fringe of the neighborhood.
Fordham is just too busy and crazy. And I've only seen a few listings. Still the transport options are fantastic, given that the Metro North regularly stops at Fordham.
Kingsbridge is decent for the most part, but subway access there is limited to the 1 train, which is local. It will take you about an hour to get to midtown.
I think Washington Heights is a better neighborhood but the Bronx has more upside. I can really see those neighborhoods transforming significantly over the next few decades, because Manhattan/Brooklyn/Queens keep getting more and more expensive, and people will need places to live. You can buy a 2 bedroom apartment for $250,000 on the Grand Concourse right. That's amazing! You can't even get a studio for that price in lower Manhattan.
Can someone explain why apartments in Wahsington heights and Inwood sell for substantially more than the Brand Concourse areas around Yankee Stadium, Fordham, Kingsbridge, Bedford and Mosholu? The apartments are the same (beautiful art deco) as are the quality of life. Actually, The Brons has nicer apartmetns and better access to the East side with the 4 train and Metro North. Is it simply bing able to say you live in New York, NY?
This is just anecdotical but I went up to Washington HTS to look at an apt. and saw cops arresting what looked like a group of 30 young men. Maybe a sweep of a gang? I don't know but the place spooks me.
Started a similar thread. Interesting thoughts...with the usual sarcasm we all love about SE.
Another Snicker's bar for your son?
What r u 7yo? Ok ok. W67 will wait till you get some hair down there. Now go on run along child.
Everything come out ok w67? Did you wife smell anything funny?
Later gotta take a shit.
Wha Wha? No response. Come on. Bring the troll.
Hasan - Guilty
9/11 Plane Landing Gear May Have Been Planted Between Buildings
The police are continuing to investigate plane landing gear—which they believe is from one of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001—found between two buildings blocks from the WTC site. Police Commissioner Ray Kelly described the piece as being around 5 feet by 4 feet by 17 inches, discovered in a "very, very narrow, confined area" between 51 Park Place and 50 Murray Street: "It's difficult to get in there and see."
Kelly said there was rope tied to one part of the gear, raising the possibility that it had been lowered. He added there weren't marks on the buildings: "It would have had to fall down at a certain angle." The location happens to be near where a controversial mosque and community center has been planned. The Post reports, "A lawyer for the proposed 'Park51' mosque claimed the landing gear was planted by opponents of the project — a theory Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said cops would explore."
The object was noticed by surveyors (hired by the owners of 51 Park Place) yesterday who then contacted the police. Kelly also added, "If you see how confined this space is, and you realize the chaos that existed down here on this street, it's not surprising. It's very, very confined. No cleanup went on in this 18-inch space between these two buildings."
There is a Boeing identification number on the gear, but the National Transportation Safety Board hasn't checked it against the two 9/11 flights yet.
Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son died on September 11 and who opposes plans for the Park 51 mosque, told the Daily News, "The main goal was build, build, money, money, money, the hell with human remains, and this is what we have today. Some people say, ‘I’m shocked.’ I’m not shocked," adding, "This is a legacy of failure and disregard. Perhaps finding the fuselage now is finally going to make people realize this."
NBC New York reports, "Police officials say the part could be difficult to remove, and may require demolition work that would destroy the two surrounding buildings. Officials are expected to be back at the scene on Monday to see if it can be removed." Kelly said, "I think it really is an historical artifact, and we want to make sure it doesn’t involve any human remains." The police have secured the area as a crime scene and the Medical Examiner's office will sift for remains.
well 5 years pat since the OP. I think bedstuy won
RIGHT ON, brooklynnativeLatina!!
That having been said, and agreed with; however, . . . . get ready for the ONSLAUGHT from the "SE Projects!"
. . . Worse!!--In a wickedly deviant and powerful way . . . .
Unlike any one, or thing, you could encounter in Bed Stuy or Crown Heights!!
I was born and raised in Brooklyn in a very nice neighborhood. I went to school with kids from all walks of life. I lived with kids from different backgrounds (class and race). I was lucky enough to have been able to get an education and obtain a job that affords me a comfortable life. I do realize that not everyone gets a good education or has the opportunities that I had. I wonder how many of you on this site are from New York? These people who live in the projects and in rent stabilized apartments are human beings who are just trying to live their lives. They have a right to be here and they shouldn't be pushed out by all of you from the midwest. Yes, there are some undesirable people in the projects but most of the people are good decent people. You all need to realize that you are displacing those who have been here for generations and your attitude is selfish. It sucks that you can't embrace diversity. That's one of the best things about this city.
alanhart, Of course, I'm speculating about teardown of those ugly projects on Fulton-Utica-Herkimer-Rochester, I just assume that the land has become priceless after recent zoning changes on Fulton. I just assume that it would make no sense to preserve that particular project. However, I know no precedents.
There is another scenario for the City to get rid of project (nice ones, like on Woodbine street in Bushwick or on Lexington in Bed Stuy). They can be cooped. That I've seen being done in Manhattan. Works like this: current resident pays, say, $700 for 3 bedroom apartment now. He will be offered to buy it for, say, $100K (to keep the payment same). Then that current resident is tempted to sell it on the open market for $300K and pocket the difference. Most cannot stand this temptation. Project ceases to exist as we know it in 1-2 years.
How much time will it take for a $700 rent to become a $2000 one? Maximum allowable increase is about 5% a year, if I'm not mistaken. Besides, a smart tenant will decline any repairs done on his apartment and force the landlord to stick to 5% increase.
Many of Mitchel-Lama rentals went market rate, true. But IMHO too many remain (see the link that I gave in the post above). Come on, we all have friends or acquaintances that live in rent-stabilized housing. Are all of them low income? No way. I personally know a doctor who lives in a rent stabilized apartment in Manhattan (his wife "inherited" one). I'm not sure what those two guys "planned out" in 1945 is right and whether it was a carefully planned strategy or not...
This morning Tuesday Jan 14th I noticed some oily liquid in the water coming from the construction site. I took pictures. It doesn't look normal to me to dump oily liquid in the water for any reason. Who should I contact and send my pictures? I live in one of the building in front of the construction site.
Yorkville... what a beautiful little neighborhood. Diverse and quiet. Sitting at the East River, watching the dog run or boats go by. Maybe a little expensive but not outrageous. It feels like a hidden gem. My wife and I just re-upped for two more years. Sure, we can leave in a couple of years if the dump pushes us out, but we both are saddened that a neighborhood this nice would get dumped on to begin with. I'm truly sorry for those who own, and hope for the best for them. If this is honestly political... honestly... then it's a big mistake. It's just messing up something that's nice.
That said, anyone joyful or smug over this situation imposed on others is misguided. What's bad for Yorkville is bad for NYC. You should want nice neighborhoods anywhere you can get them.
Keep the punches coming, Mr. Lhota
By Post Editorial Board
October 21, 2013 | 10:34pm
Good for Joe Lhota. When the GOP candidate for mayor released the first ad to hit his Democratic rival hard — for policies that would undermine the cops’ success in driving crime down to levels that are the envy of every other big city in America — Bill de Blasio complained it was “divisive” and “inappropriate.”
But Lhota hasn’t backed down, and that’s a good thing. It will make for an even better mayoral debate if Lhota follows up tonight by turning the tables on de Blasio’s preferred tactic in the first debate, which was to focus on Lhota’s “ideology.”
If de Blasio tries that again, Lhota would do well to turn the tables by highlighting the connection between de Blasio’s ideology and, say, his approach to taxes. The combined top city and state income-tax rate here is 12.7 percent. Only California’s is higher, at 13.3 percent.
Every day these high rates are sending more of our tax base to more business-friendly locales. And what is de Blasio’s answer? To jack them up even higher. Indeed, Joe might want to ask de Blasio if there’s any point in his ideology where a liberal can say taxes are too high.
Or take spending. New York spends more than any other city in America. We’re a big city, of course, but we spend more proportionately, too. It would be worth asking de Blasio if he thinks we get good value for it.
Mayor Bloomberg points out that New York City now spends more for pensions each year than for its operating budgets for the police, fire and sanitation departments combined. So again, it would be worth asking de Blasio to explain why in his ideology this is not enough.
At its core, de Blasio’s Tale of Two Cities is a government-heavy approach that will tax more, spend more and regulate more. That’s an ideology, too.
And we’re not surprised that de Blasio would rather complain about his rival’s imagined ties to the Tea Party than explain why an ideology that has bankrupted so many other cities will somehow work in New York.
God this "Somewhereelse" guy is repetitive. We get it!
Somewhereelse is stewing.
imagine that - social lives without cellphones
Yeah, she was in corduroy
no mention of edie sedgwick black tights.. not cotton enough?
Single ate kicking their heels!
Best news to come out of this election yet:
1. it used to be very isolated
2. also drab looking
3. the area looked possibly dangerous
4. but I have never heard of serious crime there
5. in recent years both Adams and Jay Streets near or adjacent to
Concord Village have been the subjects of multi-million dollar
6. investment like those usually bring increased police presence
and stricter enforcement of the law
what did it used to be?
It is a lor better than it used to be
Anyone know about this complex? Stable? It's so isolated... is it safe at night? Is there anywhere to buy food, wine, newspapers?