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My favorite part of that thread is when Wbottom comes on at the very end and demands the deletion of the thread, otherwise big bottom man will cancel his $10 per month subscription, which isn't even available anymore or part of the SE business model.
I also like saying acluistic, even if spell check rejects it.
I just like saying chagrin. Makes me feel European.
As I read that old "farewell" thread, I can't help but look at NYRENewbie and NYCDreamer and wonder how familiar those posters are. Much to my chagrin of course.
Rumors of a Trader Joe's have been (completely unsubstantiated) circulating for years, so as a resident I've grown pretty immune to pretty much any talk of "high end" retail moving into the neighborhood. That said, given the number of TJ/WF grocery bags leaving the subway, I've always held out hope that maybe one day that would change. Have now heard from an actual credible source that Whole Foods will be occupying a portion of the retail space in the updated GW Bridge Terminal. I'm not convinced that will have a huge impact of prices, but will make errands a bit less time consuming.
A group advocating for fair housing practices has sued New York City, saying it promotes segregation by favoring whites for affordable housing in Manhattan neighborhoods that are predominantly white.
Many post-modern buildings condos and condops were built in late 80's and early 90's on Upper Broadway between 72nd street to 96th Street. http://www.nycblogestate.com/2011/09/upper-broadway.html
The newer condo buildings are just ridiculously priced - I think the new ones on West 77th st are upwards of $3,000 per sq ft. I think you should try to find a well-maintained older condo (though the demand-supply gap for these is not in your favor).
I'm not sure that "older" buildings that aren't prewar are going to be as constructed to abate noise as you desire (noise can also be somewhat subjective: there's a separate thread on this site about someone complaining about neighbor noise in the Parc Vendome, which is a prewar which has the construction of a fortress.) I might suggest a "newer" but not "new" development such as the Ariel East, but you're not going to get off cheap -- prices are going to be north of $1500/sf.
101 West 79th Street, The Park Belvedere is a great building across from the Museum of Natural History.
Also 372 Central Park West, 382 Central Park West are very reasonable priced condos, some with incredible views of Central Park. These are post war buildings.
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Isn't the Astor an older building? Isn't 61 W 62nd a co-op Dan Digs?
It's about one mile away from Hunter's Point. More like three miles away from Queens Plaza.
These wackos make me laugh. There is a wastewater treatment plant about 2 miles away in Greenpoint. Irrelevant to Hunter's Point or Queens Plaza.
The sewage treatment plant is REALLY close to LIC. It's in Greenpoint, bordered on the south by Greenpoint Avenue, a quick one-mile stroll from Gantry Plaza State Park. It's actually more obviously visible after they put those goofy domes on top of the pools/tanks. Most of the highrise apartment buildings probably have perfect views of it, but I think the odor has been ...... abated.
Don't we have a sewage plant here in Manhattan? Yet another reason to avoid Bburg/Greenpoint/LIC.
Bburg, great call out on 4 posts in a row!
Where is the sewage treatment plant?
Any updates on this building's board and the financials? Would any current residents say it's healthy?
Hallways, gym & roof deck have been redone. HVAC and brick pointing is coming up. Great bldg and board. The location is perfect if you want a balance between have every restaurant at your fingertips and having privacy while owning RE in Manhattan at a dissent price.
New board since summer of 2014, much better now.
Requires anywhere north of 18 months of liquid assets depending on your overall financial situation in my experience.
does anyone know what the financial requirements of this building are? do they require 24 months worth of mortgage/maintenance in liquid assets?
The hallways are in the process of being renovated. Carpet and walls are done. Lighting fixtures and other details to follow.
I start a new job in NYC in less than a month. I've been searching forums for 2-3 BR apartments, but I am honestly torn about the best neighborhoods for my kids - two girls, ages 8 and 4.
I've been looking at Upper West Side (which I love), but I'm not sure about commute to my new job, which is near Union Square. But the public elementary schools seem decent enough there.
Also looking at Battery Park City for the K-8 school, but I'm not sure BPC has the neighborhood vibe.
I've also been looking at Brooklyn - Cobble Hill, Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Carroll Gardens, Windsor Terrace. My husband loves DUMBO. Schools seem to be more hit or miss here, and I've heard from my friends with small children that live in Manhattan that I will hate the commute in to work.
Any advice/experience appreciated.
If you go a little further north on the Concourse there are more coops at lower prices. I once stumbled upon an ad for a two-bedroom with eat-in kitchen for $150,000 (maint. $761), but tried to find it again when you posted a question. Can't find it now. But further north ..... neighborhood has further to go. Do you know about 1700 and 1770 & 1770 Grand Concourse? Being marketed now as lux, doorman buildings. Rental only. Right smack on the Cross Bx Xprway, but dramatic makeover job, looks radically different from a few years ago. All subways are crowded now. The "L" and "J" and even "G" are no bargains. Get out your stopwatch. SE posters will never concede this, but there are more green park spaces in the Bronx than anywhere else.
sdeniseed...I would first look at the buildings on the Grand Concourse near Yankee Stadium. Beautiful art deco architecture and about 15 minutes to Grand Central. Some of the buildings already have been renovated and upgraded. And of course, security is tight as the proverbial clam at least 81 days of the year.
NativeRestless, where would you recommend living in the South Bronx? I'm interested in moving there. Just don't know where to begin looking.
its a difficult thing to filter out and quantify on its own simply because in Manhattan, every bldg is its own little marketplace..so given that fact, its hard to separate, is a bldg trading higher because of school zone or because it offers attributes buyers deem more valuable (ie, prop type, service level, amenity set, specific location, apt sizes/views, etc) - with that said, if you group sales by school zone, Im sure you will see some kind of difference..just hard to quantify/filter out without the other variables interfering. That is probably the reason there are few comments on this. If I had to answer, its #6 or #7 on the list after the attributes I mentioned above.
Any insight on this?
How tied are the real estate values to public school quality on the Upper West Side?
The New York Times describes DUMBO as a circus. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/10/realestate/priced-out-of-brooklyn-try-manhattan.html
But in the time she has lived there, Dumbo’s popularity has exploded. Its waterfront park is now a tourist magnet. Camera-toting visitors flood its Belgian-block streets. And construction noise is a constant headache as buildings go up. “It became a circus,” Ms. Adams said.
Atlantic Yards / Pacific Park? Between BAM and Grand Army Plaza. Interesting - close to Atlantic Terminal for transport.
Clinton Hill to Flatiron - approx 45 mins depending on if you walk/bus to the Q (dekalb) or take the G/A/C combo. I've gotten to work in 30 mins flat when I've caught the bus, caught the Q, caught the R transfer - but that's a fluke.
Cobble Hill, Carroll Gardens, Boerum Hill -- all a bit farther than BK Heights and Dumbo but quick commute into Manhattan
Gravesend -- a godsend!
I think Atlantic Yards is the next big thing.
Everything in the Sutton area sells, this will have no problem in attracting wealthy buyers. An article about the building appeared in the NY Times real estate section a couple of days ago.
haha nice picture of the entrance
1st ave at 7am---9pm a bit more 'hectic'
awful location right on 1st
I used to live in the building. I lived on a high floor and the side of the apartment that was by the bridge was extremely noisy. The person upthread who said he cannot hear any noise, must be hard of hearing or maybe that's just wishful thinking. The benches in front of the building (that the owners have to pay to maintain) are always full of seedy characters. There are some lovely staff members, however, there are others who are thoroughly unpleasant. They will not even look at you unless you are giving them side jobs in the apartment and paying them handsomely for it. If you have several million dollars to spend, there are better buildings.
I had looked into the building at one time but found out they are using part of it as a short stay/hotel. I was not happy at the thought of a lot of transient traffic.
I live in the building and I never hear any noise day or night . Great Building. , and I love it. I am also a boroker
Living adjacent to the off ramp for the bridge would be a bigger noise concern for me. Based on the brokers photos the windows look pretty heavy duty though. Given the relative lack of high-rise buildings nearby, the views from many of the upper floor units look pretty great.
living above a starbucks and bath bed seems very noisy and congested...just sayin
Latest on this site, a new condo: http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2015/03/11/ground_zero_mosque_developer_beefs_up_jean_nouvel_condos.php
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I lived in tutor city and it seems that it fits your requirements. However, the apartments, while charming, are on the small side. I bought in turtle bay and prefer the location. Easier access to transit to west side and more restaurant options. I think if you are looking to making your money go further, the upper east side , east of 2nd avenue ,is probably your best bet. Best of luck in your search - I am sure you will find what you need.
Have you considered Murray Hill? It's a very convenient yet residential neighborhood and right in your price range.
Tudor City has very nice studio and one bedrooms, much more reasonable than Upper East Side. Easy to get downtown or to Grand Central Station--- or to the airports. Also relatively quiet for Manhattan.
HI all, I may be moving to NYC in the next 6 months and I've been looking at the Lenox Hill area of the UES as well as the UES "Proper". I'm 30, single, and will be working remotely from my job in the Midwest, so the commute isn't so much of a worry. I've been reading that there are quite a few young professionals on the UES, does this hold true for the Lenox Hill portion of the area? Or is it a bit more old money through there? It seems a bit more convenient to be closer to the F,N,Q,R,4,5 and 6 in lower Lenox Hill than living or dying only by the further uptown Lexington line (which I have rode at rush hour, yikes) I have a few friends in New York, one in the EV, the LES, and one on the border of Williamsburge/Greepoint. (I realize it would be quite a trek to get to that part of Brooklyn via train from this area though)
But I'm looking for an area that's quiet (by Manhattan standards) since I will be working from home, I've read that I may want to stay away from 2nd Ave due to the impending construction on the 2nd Ave sub. I'm not opposed to other areas, I do like hanging out on the EV, and the LES, but they may be a bit too party for me at night time, I don't mind going 15-25 mins downtown to meet friends if it means a bit quieter at nighttime. It seems like going out in the UES may end up in more meeting people 28-33 in the same mindset as me (I’m 30/m) opposed to a lot of downtown spots with a much younger crowd? Is that an accurate statement?
Are Turtle Bay and Sutton Place worth looking into? It seems like I may get a better deal on an apt on the UES, but I've read from some folks that live in those neighborhoods they really like them. I'm open to any advice anyone has, I've never been on the UWS or know much about it, the furthest I've been up by there is Columbus Circle. I've spent a little time on the UES, Midtown East, SoHo, Chelsea, EV, Greenwich Village and the LES over the years, but not definitively not enough to know everything about the neighborhoods, so I'm sure there is probably a lot I'm missing. I've been a few places in Brooklyn and as far out in Queens as Jackson Heights. I think I'll try Manhattan first (transplant talk, I know) I make about 105k a year, and am looking to spend around a max of 1800$ or a studio or 1BR, I could probably afford a little more for a nicer space, but my first year I want to be cautious and save to better prepare for the City life and the expenses it can bring.
Thanks for reading, I know I've mumbled on for a bit, but any advice, experience or suggestions will be greatly appreciated of course. Thanks!
Is this for NYC? Check ACRIS for mortgage filings (or just google / yellow pages to see resident)
Is there any way to find out who the owner is of a rented co op?
We have lived in the West 90s for five years now. IMHO the cons are:
it's way noisier than you would think;
the retail is really poor (the area has a coffeehouse nearly every block, but can't sustain a bookstore, a decent clothing store, or more than two child-friendly restaurants), and
many of the activities you might want to do (like visiting museums or going to the movies) will involve traveling out of the neighborhood.
That said, anywhere you live in the neighborhood you will be near a beautiful (and rather underused) stretch of park, which is a huge, huge pro. In addition, up here it feels like you have a choice of two orientations -- south to the more amenity-filled parts of the UWS or north to Harlem, where the shopping and restaurants are better -- which is also, in my mind, a big plus.
The far West 60s/70s is more remote and will generally be a longer walk to the subway, stores and other neighborhood amenities than the West 90s. There is more retail coming in on West End in the low 60s, as well as on Freedom Place, but generally speaking, you will have to walk farther to do most things than you would in the West 90s. The far West 60s, however, have buildings like Lincoln Guild and Lincoln Towers, which generally have larger units relative to their cost and maintenance, as well as a lot of parking. If you live in the West 90s, you will likely be a closer walk to retail and the subway. You also have an express train stop for the 2/3 which is a really great neighborhood amenity. Columbus in the West 90s is not the most attractive of avenues, however, the blocks west of Columbus are just as nice as the rest of the UWS. Plenty of families live in both areas of the UWS. Values in both parts of the neighborhood have been increasing at the same pace as the rest of the UWS, but you can probably still get more bang for your buck in the far West 60s (assuming you’re not talking about living on Riverside Blvd).
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Morningside Gardens has 3 bedroom, 2 bathrooms, some with huge terraces you can enclose and heat/air condition. The prices are under 900K.
The West 90's have older buildings and a lot of Mitchell Lama's that have been privatizing over the past 5 years. There was a time when W 86th St. was considered the "DMZ". As the neighborhood rebounded and Trump started building, the W 90s became attractive. There are far fewer newer buildings with all the amenities justifying the higher sales prices.
The West 60's and 70's have more new, pricey buildings giving a boost to the price of the older buildings. That's now the "hot area" on the UWS.
Why not go a little farther north to Morningside Heights? With the expansion of Columbia above W 125th St. and the gentrification of W 125 St, the area is becoming more attractive while the prices are still low. Look at Morningside Gardens for a family friendly place. It was the first coop in the city, built in the 1950s and has tons of amenities. http://mhhc.coop/.
We are looking to buy in one of these two locations, each having a personal draw for us. We have kids who are in school more or less in between (zone not a concern). What would you say are the pros and cons from a daily life and real estate value perspective? We have limited funds (relatively) but have seen units in both areas we could just about manage/just about squeeze into.
Try Yonkers or Riverdale
I always find it interesting that people respond to 3 month old posts as if the OP is still looking for answers. This OP never made an appearance after the initial post, not even to say thanks.
We have three children under the age of 7 two of whom are very similar age to yours. We live in the Financial District and love it - great for kids with lots of kid-friendly services following the rapidly growing child population. We moved here around the time you left and I can tell you that a _lot_ has changed down here (WTC, Fulton Transit, Governor's Island, South Street Seaport, Fulton street etc.) and you should definitely check it out.
Look into Morningside Heights on Riverside from 110 to 116. Beautiful area . Great for kids. We lived there for 7 yrs with kids and loved it.
>it's in nobody's best interest to not renew the lease
Are you sure? What if Goldman wants the space? Or the Chinese?
>increases will happen but it won't be anything astronomical
How do you know they won't be astronomical?
>Plus keep in mind that the increases in rent for the landlease won't affect your entire common charge, just the portion that's actually used to pay for the rent.
Yes, the increase in rent will increase the rent.
I had the same reservations as you but after doing a lot of reading and research, found much of it to be unwarranted. The expiration of the landlease is really a non-issue as it's in nobody's best interest to not renew the lease and the increases will happen but it won't be anything astronomical. Plus keep in mind that the increases in rent for the landlease won't affect your entire common charge, just the portion that's actually used to pay for the rent.
Correction naves is nabes
I have lived in BPC over 15 years. I like it here. I do believe prices will go higher especially when many of the projects are completed like Brookfield renovations in the World Financial Center. Streeteasy real estate report lists BPC as one of the hot naves in the city.
As far as pilot taxes are concerned while each building pays a pilot tax one has to read the offering plan for specific information.
As a real estate broker and mortgage broker, I know the area very well.
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>lives in a basement apartment, which does not exist in BPC
uh, ok djam, that makes sense.
The real outcome will be less housing for the poor and more housing for the rich. If DeBlasio wanted to really create housing for the poor and middle class he would eliminate or at least limit new historical restrictions and allow new buildings in all of the boro's to go higher and ease the building code restrictions (not on safety) which make it nearly impossible for some lots to ever be developed except by the largest of builders who have deep pockets for lots of litigation, insurance, and permit fees.
Nobody wants de Blasio's plan. Just type 'de Blasio housing' into Google, every article has a negative headline.
Thank you for the opinions!Also what do you think about the real outcome and message of DeBlasio's rezoning plan?
I think the challenge in this area will always be the emergence of the rail tracks at 96/97th street. Desirability for Park drops north of this and the railway lines create a strong physical barrier between west of Park and east of Park north of this. Additionally, at around 100th street, there is a strong physical block east to west too created by Mount Saini on the park itself and affordable housing pretty much straight across to first.
Unlike the UWS where desirability and gentrification has drifted north over time. These two factors have meant that true gentrification has never progressed significantly north of 96th on the UES.
That said, at a certain point, in the same way as with Harlem in general, you will likely see some gentrificaiton of East/Spanish Harlem in years to come.
However, there are lots of projects in that area in general which aren't going to move so I would probably place my bets in the area of 108 to 112th east of Park - there aren't any projects on those blocks and it's close to the 110th street station on the 6. Could be interesting.