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Does anyone have any experience renting here or from this management? Would love some perspective about pros and cons of the building, units and most importantly the management company and how they run the building.
Clipper Equity is raising rents in the 30% range for apartments that are reasonably nice, but not in line with the luxury development in the neighborhood. Why they think they deserve the same $$$ is a mystery. The development of Park51 has started at the back of the building, so there is jackhammering from 9-5PM. there will be a new development across the street near W. B'way in the coming year so there will be more noise there. I think we are going to move since we can get nicer space for a little less money than the increase. I just loved the staff at 50 Murray for years, but it is changing.
We've lived in 50 Murray for 4 years and it's been such a wonderful place to live. The Super and Staff are incredibly helpful and friendly. However, the building was recently purchased by Clipper Equity and a lot of staff were either fired or have left. Clipper runs a lot of low income housing in Flat Bush and they frankly seem to be out of their league in this building. The staff coming in from Clipper are extremely rude and abrasive especially the woman who runs the Leasing office. They are incredibly hard to get a hold of, have raised the rents an insane amount, and yell at tenants. We moved out because it was just too much to handle. In addition, there is a ton of construction happening around the building on Park Place and Church street, it's very noisy early in the morning and late at nights even on the weekends! 50 Murray used to be the place to be, but frankly, the finishes aren't that nice compared to other buildings in the same price range and the new management company seems to be corrupt and in over their heads. A real shame!
The street noise is very noisy on the back side of the apartment building. They are building a four seasons at 99 church and it will be extremely loud until 2016 until they are finished.
Just how noisy is the street noise from this building? Taking a look at apartments on the 9th and 10th floors, and I hear that Uncle Mike's and the adjacent NY Dolls are both noisy establishments. 9 floors up may not be enough to isolate the noise. Any comments?
You forgot that the rents will be higher bc of the attack in the building...
Go to creditkarma.com. It will spit out your TU and Experian reports for free. It might end up with the same no history outcome, but at least you can try and maybe submit what they have to the mgmt co. and see if they will accept it.
I'd say get a different apt and have your GF on the lease with no mention of you living there. Use your Dad as the guarantor. Your GF is allowed in NY state to have a roommate.
Well, in the long run, you need to establish a credit history. The best way to do this is probably one general card (think MasterCard or Visa) that you charge stuff on and pay in full each month, and one department store card (think Bloomie's, Macy) that you do the same thing with. I would think that the process of establishing credit by doing this isn't going to be instant, but you probably want to do it. Bernie123 , if he's around, can weigh in with even better thoughts.
For now, I would think you could get a broker to run your credit using whatever product they use (CoreLogic SafeRent or similar) or you could probably sign up and generate a report on yourself and show it to the management company. If the student loans were in your name, they would definitely show up on this kind of report; IDK if that's the case if they're in your parent's file. The danger you'll run into, of course, is that this is the product that the management company already tried to use.
Running your credit that way is going to run somewhere in the $40-$75 range each time, but it might be worth it because of your need for speed.
Current landlord reports aren't worth that much, because if your current landlord hates you, of course they're going to say nice things about you to offload you onto the next landlord. Going back to the previous landlord and getting a reference letter would have some weight, but it sounds like the landlord you had before this might have been student housing.
So the move that you might need to make is to buy an insurance policy (Insurent is the one I know of). This is majorly not cheap, but if you want the apartment and they won't take a guarantor, and you already know that whatever credit report you generate is going to contain a bunch of codes like "accounts not found" it's probably your only way to this particular apartment.
Hope that helps. Good luck!
Hi all, I'm in the midst of dealing with a frustrating situation re: applying for lease. I apologize in advance for the length, but I wanted to be as thorough as possible. Anybody that has it it in them to read and give any advice would be greatly appreciated!
I'm moving in with gf and on Friday applied for an apt. When they attempted to run my credit check, it came back, in the words of the management company, "as if I don't exist". Now, I don't have a credit card, or any loans / mortgages etc, and I let them know that. They said that's not what was happening. Even if I had no credit history, a) that would be fine based on all my other info and b) it still should return a result / file, but it was just giving them an error. They tried their preferred credit bureau (Experian) and the other 2 - same thing happened with all 3. The leasing director also told me things like student loans (even if it was under my parent's name), medical bills, utility bills, etc would appear on my report.
I first tried to call the credit bureaus and it was impossible to get a hold of somebody to talk to. After trying to talk to somebody at all 3, I tried to get my own report at all 3 via their automated system, and was greeted with an error as well (could not process your request). At that point, I contacted the SS department and was able to verify there was nothing wrong with that (all my info checked out and matched).
After a google search, I was able to reach a cust service rep TransUnion at this number: 1-800-916-8800. I gave my info to the rep, and within 5 seconds said he was looking at my file. I said, "so I have a file and am in your system, but I just have an empty history?", and he confirmed. I called management company back, and they asked me to have them fax / email them the report. I called TU back and was told they don't fax / email, but they can mail it (which I asked for) but that would take 5-7 business days, which would obv not be in time to get this apartment.
They referred me to annualcreditrport.com and said I could get my own file there immediately. I tried, and was greeted with an "unable to honor your request" error, which I imagine is what was happening to management company. I called mgmt company back, told them they don't fax / email, but I asked for a mailed copy. They said that would do no good. I called TU back, asked to talk to supervisor, and asked why I exist in their system, but when the leasing company tried to access my report it was giving an error. He said he could see in his system the company inquired about my credit earlier in the day and received my complete info / file. I said they were getting an error. He said they could call their marketing dept and get it straightened out. I asked for this # and he said he could not give it out as it was for bankers / creditors only, but they "definitely have it". I passed this along to mgmnt company and of course, they don't know what I'm talking about.
That's where I stand as of end of day Friday. I'm going to call TU back Monday morning and ask how they can obtain this marketing dept #, but am not expecting much. In the meantime, I actually signed up for TransUnion, and am able to login using my info and see my file.
I have a couple questions:
- I asked many people (family attorney, my financial institutions, friends who have experience with this) for some insight. They all came said the same thing: "well, do you have a credit history"? I said no cc / loans, and they said, well, that's what will happen. I asked about student loans, medical bills etc etc and they said they wouldn't appear on my report. This is in direct opposition to what the leasing director of the mgmnt company told me. Who's right?
- Both I and leasing agent realized this was something that probably wasn't going to get fixed in a day. I asked about having my gf be the sole leaseholder or my dad being a guarantor. I also have all other documentation: letter of employment, W-2s, pay stubs, financial account info, bank accnt info, letter from current landlord (I've lived at my current 4 BR apt for 8 years, the last 5 of which I've been sole leasholder). They said neither would work - they don't give keys to somebody they can't run a credit report on. I eventually even offered to pay 6 months rent up front, and they declined.
This seems pretty strict, but I don't have much experience. Until I fix this situation, can I expect the same from other potential apartments? Or is this management company being stricter than is normal?
I also feel like the woman should have known that the credit bureau wouldn't fax / email me the report if that's their policy. I asked her to just call the same # I did and they'd be told the same thing. They said it's not their problem, and that we only have one more chance for them to run a credit check as part of our $200 total application fee.
- Obviously having no credit history causing these issues is embarrassing, I just never felt the need to get a credit card. I applied and was approved for a credit card over the weekend, but it won't arrive for a week. How long will it take to establish a credit score? Will simply the act of receiving a credit card "snap" my credit profile into place? Or will I need to pay for and pay off a month? Or more?
- Why, if I have a file, is it returning an error when searching? I'd imagine this is due to my blank credit history. But shouldn't THAT return, and not an error? Is there any # I can call the other credit bureaus at and actually talk to somebody?
Thanks so much to anybody that's made it this far.
Hi all - I am about to rend a 1 bedroom on a high-ish floor (15 ) at 200 Riverside Boulevard.
Does anyone have thoughts on this building? I am primarily concerned about noise from above (hearing people walking).
I lived in an apt. on Park (below GCS) and I could hear EVERYTHING coming from upstairs (even though they allegedly complied with the 80% carpet/rug rule).
Any advice on noise would be appreciated. Thank you!
If you're listing now, I would list for June 15 or July 1. You'll get the best crop of tenants. If you want to list for August, wait to list until June 22nd. I just listed a client's apartments for June 15th. 3 applications, all applicants with over 750 credit scores/over 80x the rent income.
Which, if any, summer month is the best for listing a studio or 1BR for rent in Harlem? Is demand for this size rental vary between June, July or August? Thank you in advance!
Is this really a Two bedroom apt? is $3800 really worth it?
Hi! Can anyone share their experiences living here? I am about to sign a lease and can't find any history of tenants. Thanks!
"For privacy, they sometimes raise the bedroom windows facing the corridor up near the ceiling."
For that lovely basement apartment-type feeling!
I looked at apartments at Skyview on the Hudson (Riverdale) and 100 W 94th St. They both have a central elevator bank with a large landing that is enclosed as in a traditional building. At Skyview, some apartments were accessible via the landing while others had the exterior corridor. 100 W 94th St has only exterior corridors. The housing projects in the East 90s next to the East River have a similar design to Skyview.
I asked about this from realtors and was given a variety of answers. The one that makes the most sense is that they can squeeze more apartments on a lot with exterior corridors since you don't have to worry about windowless rooms. Windows are at both ends of the apartment and the bathrooms, and sometimes kitchens, generally divide the two ends. Bathrooms and kitchens are not required to have windows.
Think about this as living in a "town house" with a front door that opens to the great outdoors.
I wasn't keen on these exterior corridors since people can look through your windows easily. For privacy, they sometimes raise the bedroom windows facing the corridor up near the ceiling.
Anyone can share any experiences with living here?
This building has an exterior corridor!!! Can you imagine taking your trash out in winter? Brrrrr...
What were they thinking?
Sorry, I meant Trump rental building there (140-180) versus renting in a condo on the Boulevard from an owner. Thanks.
Putting aside your hate or distaste for Riverside Blvd, how are the Trump rentals? And is it worth the hassle and extra cost to rent in one of the condos to have the amenities and just generally much nicer unit?
I pass this complex everyday and it looks like its 1~2 months from completion. Anyone found any info on what 1 & 2 bdrms will likely go for here?
These big apartments seem to go for cheap. But I recall this building has its issues. Is this one to avoid?
The people in my office refuse to work with Realty MX. I intervened in one situation and found them to be insulting and dismissive
our company recently switched to rentjuice. They are learning all the ins and outs of the New York market but responding quickly. Citi Habitats is also testing them out.
Other than that realtymx is good. OLR is the big boy but they don't really do craigslist, it's more for cobroking. Realtywarp looks like rentjuice but a little less put together from their website :)
feel free to email me with any questions about rentjuice.
My company is shopping around for a new listings management platform. So, I thought I ask around to see what people are using and how they like it. We've used postlets.com for syndicating our listings and now it is time to find out what the big boys are using.
Some of the platforms have found:
Realtymx.com (Seems like a lot agencies in Manhattan are using it.)
Core's listings management platform ( Not sure if it is limited to core or if anyone can use them)
Realtywarp.com - (Seems new to the market - Really like their interface)
What are you using and how do you like it?
You probably accidentally ignored yourself.
If you log out, you can see, or log in as someone else, eg try c0lumbiac0unty, password: cr00k
Please give some rationale for labeling all my comments "Ignored." Is it financial?
StreetEasy, why "hide" all my comments? Everything I've said, with the exception of personal data in my last comment and in other tenant's reports I related above, can be verified through other tenants here or the NYC Department of Buildings. Look at the violations.
Years. I remember in the 90's they had the scariest super... Already have another place lined up so I will be moving this year. Just heard from a neighbor that one of the "crew" said next month they'll put in new laundry machines and actually repair the broken cement and tile floor. The neighbor said the place is sort of cleaned now, at least better than they've ever seen it but I haven't looked down there recently -- too many loaded-up fly strips and dirt-filled rooms with G-d knows what in them.
Elsa, how long have you lived in the building? When is your next lease renewal?
So from July until April this building has had no guess. Finally after months of stalling Newcastle Realty Services turned the gas back on in the entire building... or so I thought. After a few tenants' meetings it looks like Newcastle ONLY turned on gas in market rate apartments. Apartments whose tenants are under rent control or rent stablization do not have gas in their apartments, and have been lied to by management saying that the building still does not have any gas. They are actively trying to get the RC/RS tenants out by forcing them to give up their leases. Unbelievable!
Landlords have a legal responsibility to fix the gas when it breaks, and this one is not complying. What's not to get?
Riccardo, I understand exactly why you don't get the likes of lrschwhatever, but listen, he or she is whatever he or she is, but the information about this building is generally more important to the public.
I guess we haven't seen any postings from New2Me lately because she found her whisper listing and completed her gut renovation of her pre-war apartment and no longer has questions for us.
I like the tactic: change the subject twice while maintaining a friendly, non-defensive, and even encouraging tone.
BTW - You should try the same research experiment with postings by Inonada and w67th. A lot of similar similarities, and if I did not know Inonada in person, I would have thought they were one and the same. Carry on.
I told you I readily acknowledged the similarities, but I am not s/he. You need to link the Phillips Club thread. I joined SE in 2009 when I knew I was going to be in NY quite a bit over next few years. Ended up buying at Phillips Club in 2009, where, btw, we still own and love. Best guest bedroom in town. Neverending goodwill from friends and family who use our unit there regularly. I have zero problem owning anything I have ever said to anyone, anywhere, on the Internet or elsewhere.
"And although you and I don't agree on everything, I am pleased that at least we agree on there being no excuse for not paying debits knowingly incurred. "
about 16 months ago
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I like the idea of using buyer's broker that you like for purpose of not having to deal with seller's broker if for no other purpose. In our current rental, the owner/seller's broker was so annoying that I contemplated engaging buyer's broker mid-deal just to not have to deal with the seller's broker anymore.
3 days ago
Member since: Jan 2012
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Yes, front_porch/ali was right on the mark. What I wanted did not exist on the rental market so I made significant compromises for the 3 years that we rented prior to buying. When I finally decided to buy, I would have used Ali had I been in New York consistently, but as time is always at a premium, adding a representative into the mix would have required coordinating schedules in a way that is simply not possible for me much of the time.
How does the Zeckendorf Tower compare to the Related Companies building across the street?
One Irving Realty and Site Realty (aka City Connections) are NOT the on site or exclusive agents for Zeckendorf Towers - they just happen to be agents that live in the building and run their business from their homes. There is NOT an on-site exclusive agent for the building. The condo management doesn't do rentals or sales in the building. MOST brokers charge a 15% fee - so 12% is a good savings. New leases must sign riders agreeing to no smoking (good) and no pets (sad) - condo management will be quick to issue fines if the rules are violated.
I lived in this building for two years and it was fine. Clean, decent staff, great location, nice fitness center, decent pool. I would be happy to live here again but was kind of priced out plus there aren't many (any?) 2brs to rent.
I love the bit about having to take the primary elevator up to the second lobby so you can access your tower elevator. Efficient, especially when you remember that you left your umbrella back in your apartment.
Unless the apartment is one of a kind to your specifications, or the broker saves you significant time out of your busy life by finding you an apartment and dealing with all of the headaches, or the apartment is significantly cheaper than an apartment you can find yourself without paying a fee, then don't pay a fee.
if a broker brings you to a no fee building, you will owe that broker a fee. make sure you visit no fee buildings on your own. brownstones and smaller builders often use brokers and it depends on the landlord, whether he is picking up the fee or not. if you use a broker, you will pay the fee.
thank you for the response. That tells me that there is no rule. anything goes?
Big landlord or small landlord? For the most part, I think big landlords pay 1 month commission to the broker who brings them a tenant, i.e. No Fee building. Small landlords have their apartment sitting there empty earning no rent for an extra couple months waiting for the broker to find someone who will pay their commission which they charge to the tenant at an even higher rate, unless the owner is smart enough to lower the barriers to renting and pay the marketing commission themselves, i.e. it works out better for the owner to negotiate the 1 month commission directly with the broker when he gives the listing and then to pay it.
"I will list your apartment free to you because the tenant pays my fee, oh and the added benefit is that you know they are qualified because they can write a big check upfront that proves they can throw money away" is actually not in your interests.
At last, who pays the commission for a rental? The owner of the prospective tentant?
You have as much of a chance of hearing from divot after 16 months as you do of winning the Mega Millions. LOL.
Hey divot. I guess you never got a reply. What decision did you finally make? Which building? Thanks.
I am looking to rent something within walking distance (7-8 minutes) of Grand Central. There are so many options in the area (Metropolis, Vanderbilt, 425 Fifth, The Buchanan, 230 E 44, Archstone Murray Hill, Paramount Tower, 212 E 47, the Nash, etc)
I am a bit overwhelmed. I'm not a stickler for amenities (the most important for me are high ceilings and nice finishes. and I guess FIOS). I'd love a spacious 2br/2ba in a townhouse or brownstone just as much as an ultra lux 1br in a doorman building, so I have a lot of flexibility. (Budget is 3-4.5k, with some flexibility).
If anyone has any ideas, I'd really appreciate it. :)
I have lived here for years. this is a mouse and roach infested building on a rat infested property. it will only get worse once construction on JHL starts. Stay away from PWV.
I have not reviewed the issue recently, but last time I did (some 3 years ago), landlords in New York appeared to be in a very strong position vis-a-vis tenants in general. See http://streeteasy.com/talk/discussion/32999-landlords-lose-a-big-one.
In addition, going to court to recover a security deposit wrongfully withheld will frequently be more costly in terms of time and money than the amount of money involved. http://streeteasy.com/talk/discussion/33010-refund-of-security-deposit-possible-
Accordingly, a New Yorker who finds him/herself with an unprofessional landlord can be effectively deprived of the quiet enjoyment of what is supposed to be his/her home during the term of whatever lease s/he might have with said landlord.
In addition, s/he might also find herself out of her security deposit (or a portion thereof) after she moves.
Accordingly, everyone should do as much due diligence on their prospective landlords as they can.
I did not perform due diligence on my landlord in advance of renting at The Beekman Regent, and I paid a price for my carelessness in that respect.
Draw your own conclusions from what all parties to this matter have said in conjunction with all publicly available information (make sure to read exhibits, etc in litigations) as to whether I am telling the truth or whether mine was an isolated experience. Either way, the purpose of my posts on the building and the landlord was and remains (1) to deter the landlord from engaging in this conduct going forward; (2) to aid any individual who might find him/herself in the position where I was 4.5 years ago (out-of-towner moving to New York looking for high end rental in Midtown East); (3) to aid any individual who might find him/herself in the position where I was during my tenancy at The Beekman Regent (surprised by the $200/month fuel charge, shocked at landlord improvements being billed to me as "added rent" and deeply disturbed by intrusive "maintenance" visits); and finally (4) to aid any individual who might find him/herself in the position where I was after I terminated my tenancy at The Beekmen Regent (getting no answer to requests for walk through, receiving no word on security deposit for months, having to threaten to sue to get security deposit back, and then finally getting security deposit back only to find that a portion of it has been wrongfully withheld - I note here again that each item of damage the landlord alleged in our case was also alleged in the Concise Management case, down to the dogs damaging the floors; again, make sure to read pleadings, exhibits, etc. not just in Concise Management, but in all the litigations if you really want to do thorough due diligence).
I am sure there are those who have had positive experiences at The Beekman Regent, and again, for them I am happy.
It also appears that a number of brokers seem to like the building, and for them I am happy as well, noting only that not every broker who has worked with Beekman International has had a rosy experience. See Levine v. Beekman International (Case #: 2:02-CV-06904 in U.S. District Court S.D.N.Y.)(if you take the time to review this case, note the settlement that was placed on the record at the end).
I suspect that all of the brokers posting today are collecting no fee from the landlord, but rather are attempting to collect 15% from prospective tenants; if such is in fact the case, I wish them best of luck there.
Finally, to close on a positive note, I will say that the physical space of and the views from The Beekman Regent are quite beautiful, and I found the majority of the staff there to be quite lovely as well.
She's back with the support of the troll "alanhart ". It's 2015 and there's no need for stamps. There's no mention of her "missing" "truth ". The "Alanhart" troll is here to carry on his abusive comments about "truth" which only proves my point.
I will supply the stamps.
So she misses trUth? That makes one. Interesting. Udderly.
She didn't, as she claimed, let it go years ago. She's still here, complaining about it and she affected no change, only used these discussions to no good use other than her own. It's clearly a failure and those who continue to argue the case here ( to the ongoing boredom of us all) would get some satisfaction by printing out her posted comments and sending them to the managing partners at Kirkland and Ellis. They will tell her husband to shut her personal vendetta down and keep it off of Se discussions. She's now being judged by those comments and her nostalgia for the worst trolls, whom she claims " I miss ... Blah, blah blah...".
While you're waiting for the next collapse, here's one for $2100, just a few blocks away: http://streeteasy.com/building/555-2-avenue-manhattan/3
Yankee Stadium doesn't care if corporate boxes are empty so long as they are paid for. Which is like a lot of new real estate in NYC. Of course the concessionaire doesn't make any money, neither do the local restaurants, shops, or the tax man.
Insane prices at the Prism. One bd apt start at $5100. If you are making $100k a year, you have no chance. $200k/salary is minimum, even then you are cutting coupons. Is this sustainable?
It reminds me of Yankee Stadium and their luxe boxes which were priced just for corporate companies. They became eyesores since they were always empty.