On a more serious note, is this a 421a-abated building? Maint+Fees per month less than the square footage?
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I don't get it. What's so funny about the apartment?
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"Off to your right of the foyer your guest bedroom endures a spacious closet...."
What gets me, as usual, is selling anything for $2,395,000 where neither the brokers nor the owner bother to read the ad. The whole thing is a mess. It's not as if either of them are burdened with too many listings.
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Insulting isn't it? Can't be bothered to check for errors..... Yet they'd like your 2.4 million dollars.
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Response by HT1
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if I would be the seller I would kick some ass
2mn selling price means at least 100 grand commissions (5%) to be paid by the seller to this lazy broker
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alpine -- one does not "endure" a closet.... enjoy, perhaps ---
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The whole thing is embarrassingly badly written--jumbled syntax and capitalization where none is needed, improper spacing--a barely legible mess. I mean, come on--"Off to your right of the foyer"? Seriously?
These guys ought to be ashamed.
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Response by anonymous
over 16 years ago
Oh please, such outrage over this. Like a buyer who likes the apartment is going to walk because of the broker's syntax, spelling and punctuation.
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Response by OTNYC
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No self-respecting Tribeca loft should ever have to endure a closet - unheard of...
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Response by evnyc
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I would love to endure that closet. It's like an extra bedroom!
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Response by dwell
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"THE HUBERT is the best building in Tribeca to date."
"....and an island spacious and accomodating for multiple uses."
cringe, snark
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gleeclub, I agree with you to the extent that I made the OP free-floating rather than attached to the SE listing. The seller's suffered enough. In this market, though, presentation matters. Why market a product as if it's a POS? Why expect a buyer, with so many choices before her, to look past the marketing? Why engage in a $2.4M transaction with someone lacking plain common sense?
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When an agent seems so blatantly sloppy, I would worry about carelessness in other matters, like material disclosures, preparation for closing, and handling of confidential information.
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NWT: Why expect a buyer, with so many choices before her, to look past the marketing? Why engage in a $2.4M transaction with someone lacking plain common sense?
Because the property can speak for itself regardless of good marketing or not. Anyone interested in this area, this general size, this general price range, etc. can go and visit the property and make an inspection herself and make a determination. I'm not sure why the sensibility of the counterparty is at all relevant.
West81st: When an agent seems so blatantly sloppy, I would worry about carelessness in other matters, like material disclosures, preparation for closing, and handling of confidential information.
Well, that is an interesting point of view. Does the inverse apply? If the apartment was sitting on a toxic waste dump that could only be detected with a Phase II environmental study but the front porch was panted pretty and the sign outside had a prestigious name like Morgan Warburg in gold lettering, would that make it a good investment?
Your "diligence" is what is sloppy. Look past marketing and look at the facts - look at the building, look at the property, for $2.4MM hire your own people to investigate and process.
Find a gem in the rough (as if bad marketing really makes it rough - see my first point), not an easy way out.
Sometimes dealing with morons is better than dealing with astute geniuses. ... hint hint
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gleeclub: There are advantages and disadvantages to dealing with careless, unprofessional people. Yes, they are generally easier to fleece. They are also more likely to make stupid mistakes or play idiotic games.
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gleeclub, true enough. But property is a hard sell these days, and there're shallow people (e.g., me) who notice a shoddy presentation. Like it or not, it rubs off on the product being sold.
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The verbal usage sounds like someone whose first language is not english, perhaps? I'm a verbal purist so I'm very sensitive to correct usage but today, on the internet? Nobody proofreads - everybody is doing 3 things at once & on a tiny device in the palm of their hand, and they're, there, their - who cares which word is correct. Is it wrong? I think so but I seem to be in a small minority.
ANYWAY - endure the closet? This is 2009, COME OUT, ALREADY !!!
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If, as a seller, I am expecting my agent to negotiate on my behalf, and said agent is unable to express even basic concepts in an articulate manner, then yeah, I'd say we have a a problem.
I don't want my multimillion-dollar deal handled by someone whose writing and speech comprehension are no better than that of a high-school dropout GED candidate. Sorry.
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dwell "....and an island spacious and accomodating for multiple uses."
lol the whole thing is too funny
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Response by dwell
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The Hubert may be the best building in Tribeca, but, I don't want to date it.
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Drdrd, at least one of the realtors claims to have "attended top private schools in Manhattan" in her bio. Unfortunately, the bio is poorly written as well.
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The strangest thing about this apartment is that both bathrooms are ensuite--no powder room. That's pretty unusual in new construction, no? What do they expect your guests to do?
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Yes, poor Rachel and her struggles with our friend the apostrophe.
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history of this unit very interesting: sold for $1,450,000 in 2004 and then for $2.5 in 2007. lets see how low and how fast the first cut comes.
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On a more serious note, is this a 421a-abated building? Maint+Fees per month less than the square footage?
I don't get it. What's so funny about the apartment?
"Off to your right of the foyer your guest bedroom endures a spacious closet...."
What gets me, as usual, is selling anything for $2,395,000 where neither the brokers nor the owner bother to read the ad. The whole thing is a mess. It's not as if either of them are burdened with too many listings.
Insulting isn't it? Can't be bothered to check for errors..... Yet they'd like your 2.4 million dollars.
if I would be the seller I would kick some ass
2mn selling price means at least 100 grand commissions (5%) to be paid by the seller to this lazy broker
alpine -- one does not "endure" a closet.... enjoy, perhaps ---
The whole thing is embarrassingly badly written--jumbled syntax and capitalization where none is needed, improper spacing--a barely legible mess. I mean, come on--"Off to your right of the foyer"? Seriously?
These guys ought to be ashamed.
Oh please, such outrage over this. Like a buyer who likes the apartment is going to walk because of the broker's syntax, spelling and punctuation.
No self-respecting Tribeca loft should ever have to endure a closet - unheard of...
I would love to endure that closet. It's like an extra bedroom!
"THE HUBERT is the best building in Tribeca to date."
"....and an island spacious and accomodating for multiple uses."
cringe, snark
gleeclub, I agree with you to the extent that I made the OP free-floating rather than attached to the SE listing. The seller's suffered enough. In this market, though, presentation matters. Why market a product as if it's a POS? Why expect a buyer, with so many choices before her, to look past the marketing? Why engage in a $2.4M transaction with someone lacking plain common sense?
When an agent seems so blatantly sloppy, I would worry about carelessness in other matters, like material disclosures, preparation for closing, and handling of confidential information.
NWT: Why expect a buyer, with so many choices before her, to look past the marketing? Why engage in a $2.4M transaction with someone lacking plain common sense?
Because the property can speak for itself regardless of good marketing or not. Anyone interested in this area, this general size, this general price range, etc. can go and visit the property and make an inspection herself and make a determination. I'm not sure why the sensibility of the counterparty is at all relevant.
West81st: When an agent seems so blatantly sloppy, I would worry about carelessness in other matters, like material disclosures, preparation for closing, and handling of confidential information.
Well, that is an interesting point of view. Does the inverse apply? If the apartment was sitting on a toxic waste dump that could only be detected with a Phase II environmental study but the front porch was panted pretty and the sign outside had a prestigious name like Morgan Warburg in gold lettering, would that make it a good investment?
Your "diligence" is what is sloppy. Look past marketing and look at the facts - look at the building, look at the property, for $2.4MM hire your own people to investigate and process.
Find a gem in the rough (as if bad marketing really makes it rough - see my first point), not an easy way out.
Sometimes dealing with morons is better than dealing with astute geniuses. ... hint hint
gleeclub: There are advantages and disadvantages to dealing with careless, unprofessional people. Yes, they are generally easier to fleece. They are also more likely to make stupid mistakes or play idiotic games.
gleeclub, true enough. But property is a hard sell these days, and there're shallow people (e.g., me) who notice a shoddy presentation. Like it or not, it rubs off on the product being sold.
The verbal usage sounds like someone whose first language is not english, perhaps? I'm a verbal purist so I'm very sensitive to correct usage but today, on the internet? Nobody proofreads - everybody is doing 3 things at once & on a tiny device in the palm of their hand, and they're, there, their - who cares which word is correct. Is it wrong? I think so but I seem to be in a small minority.
ANYWAY - endure the closet? This is 2009, COME OUT, ALREADY !!!
If, as a seller, I am expecting my agent to negotiate on my behalf, and said agent is unable to express even basic concepts in an articulate manner, then yeah, I'd say we have a a problem.
I don't want my multimillion-dollar deal handled by someone whose writing and speech comprehension are no better than that of a high-school dropout GED candidate. Sorry.
dwell "....and an island spacious and accomodating for multiple uses."
lol the whole thing is too funny
The Hubert may be the best building in Tribeca, but, I don't want to date it.
Drdrd, at least one of the realtors claims to have "attended top private schools in Manhattan" in her bio. Unfortunately, the bio is poorly written as well.
The strangest thing about this apartment is that both bathrooms are ensuite--no powder room. That's pretty unusual in new construction, no? What do they expect your guests to do?
Yes, poor Rachel and her struggles with our friend the apostrophe.
history of this unit very interesting: sold for $1,450,000 in 2004 and then for $2.5 in 2007. lets see how low and how fast the first cut comes.