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flip tax

Started by cbishara
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 32
Member since: Apr 2008
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Does anyone know the deal on Flip taxes? Put in an offer on a co-op and was told that i need to pay a 1.75% flip tax. It is also written in the co-op rules that the flip tax is to be paid by the buyer. I always thought the flip tax is paid by the seller though anyone know more about this?
Response by newmove1
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 57
Member since: Feb 2009

It depends on the co-op and the bylaws of that co-op. Sometimes it's paid by the buyer and other times it's paid by the seller. It can also be negotiated as to who pays.

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Response by kylewest
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 4455
Member since: Aug 2007

Everything is negotiable. Nothing prevents you from demanding the purchase price be reduced by an amount equal to the flip tax. It is most commonly paid by sellers, but coop by-laws can dictate whatever they want.

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Response by stevejhx
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 12656
Member since: Feb 2008

There is a very good legal theory out there - as yet untested - that a co-op board has no right to force a buyer to pay a flip tax. Co-op boards have rights over shareholders; a buyer is not yet a shareholder. That would me my approach to the seller - let him pay. It's a buyer's market, in any case.

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Response by ab_11218
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 2017
Member since: May 2009

during negotiations, this should have came to light. if the seller and seller's broker did not notify you of this, then the contract price should be lowered by the amount of the flip tax that you will have to pay. considering that a flip tax, no matter who pays, is not mortgageable, in terms of financing, it's irrelevant.

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Response by aifamm
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 483
Member since: Sep 2007

In good times, buyer pays. In bad times, seller pays. Similar to rental broker fees.
Did you sign the contract yet?

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Response by chuckl1233
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 122
Member since: Jun 2007

Hi cbishara, I would also ask if there are tranfer fees, move in/out fee, etc. Every building has its own rules but I agree with newmove 1. Good luck

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 9877
Member since: Mar 2009

I'm pretty sure it's enunciated in the Blumberg form contract who is to pay the transfer fees, if any, so I don't think it's an issue of "during negotiations, this should have came to light. if the seller and seller's broker did not notify you of this, then the contract price should be lowered by the amount of the flip tax that you will have to pay."

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Response by falcogold1
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 4159
Member since: Sep 2008

I was in a flip tax fight just last week.

The flip tax is in a coop agreement. It applys to members of the coop. As a buyer you are NOT yet a member. The coop does not care where the money comes from as long as they get their cut. In this market the seller pays the flip tax not the seller or YOU WALK!!! Be a pussy, be ready to pay.

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Response by falcogold1
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 4159
Member since: Sep 2008

not the buyer...whoops

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Response by landcomm1
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 11
Member since: Mar 2010

falcogold, do you need help determining which way is up?

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Response by cbishara
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 32
Member since: Apr 2008

Thanks folks. Looks like i'll be putting my negotiation skills to good use.

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Response by falcogold1
almost 16 years ago
Posts: 4159
Member since: Sep 2008

it's the direction the bubbles are going

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