Rich People Should Be Paying More Taxes

Wavin' the raw meat?

yeah I actually watched this interview this morning, he was equally adamant on the however....the however was not with the way the current band of idiots who are spending the tax dollars.

It falls on the same thing with healthcare, most would like to see universal health care, but you have to fix it first along with adding everyone.

Dear Mr. Langone, I understand you are very philantropic but not aware of how to support the United States Government beyond your required taxes. I have provided the following in the hope that it would be helpful to you.

Gifts to the United States Government
How do I make a contribution to the U.S. government?

Citizens who wish to make a general donation to the U.S. government may send contributions to a specific account called "Gifts to the United States." This account was established in 1843 to accept gifts, such as bequests, from individuals wishing to express their patriotism to the United States. Money deposited into this account is for general use by the federal government and can be available for budget needs. These contributions are considered an unconditional gift to the government. Financial gifts can be made by check or money order payable to the United States Treasury and mailed to the address below.

Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
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http://www.fms.treas.gov/faq/moretopics_gifts.html

and how does someone worth $1.1b define 'wealthy'? cause i'm guessing its not making $250k a year.

Of course it is steve who posts half the story, since he loves misleading out of context support for his dumb positions.

Why don't you post this opinion from Ken Langone: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704361504575552080488297188.html

Stop Bashing Business, Mr. President
If we tried to start The Home Depot today, it's a stone cold certainty that it would never have gotten off the ground . . .

Your insistence that your policies are necessary and beneficial to business is utterly at odds with what you and your administration are saying elsewhere. You pick a fight with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, accusing it of using foreign money to influence congressional elections, something the chamber adamantly denies. Your U.S. attorney in New York, Preet Bahrara, compares investment firms to Mexican drug cartels and says he wants the power to wiretap Wall Street when he sees fit. And you drew guffaws of approving laughter with your car-wreck metaphor, recently telling a crowd that those who differ with your approach are "standing up on the road, sipping a Slurpee" while you are "shoving" and "sweating" to fix the broken-down jalopy of state.

That short-sighted wavering—between condescending encouragement one day and hostile disparagement the next—creates uncertainty that, as any investor could tell you, causes economic paralysis. That's because no one can tell what to expect next.

A little more than 30 years ago, Bernie Marcus, Arthur Blank, Pat Farrah and I got together and founded The Home Depot. Our dream was to create (memo to DNC activists: that's build, not take or coerce) a new kind of home-improvement center catering to do-it-yourselfers. The concept was to have a wide assortment, a high level of service, and the lowest pricing possible.

We opened the front door in 1979, also a time of severe economic slowdown. Yet today, Home Depot is staffed by more than 325,000 dedicated, well-trained, and highly motivated people offering outstanding service and knowledge to millions of consumers.

If we tried to start Home Depot today, under the kind of onerous regulatory controls that you have advocated, it's a stone cold certainty that our business would never get off the ground, much less thrive. Rules against providing stock options would have prevented us from incentivizing worthy employees in the start-up phase—never mind the incredibly high cost of regulatory compliance overall and mandatory health insurance. Still worse are the ever-rapacious trial lawyers.

Meantime, you seem obsessed with repealing tax cuts for "millionaires and billionaires." Contrary to what you might assume, I didn't start with any advantages and neither did most of the successful people I know. I am the grandson of immigrants who came to this country seeking basic economic and personal liberty. My parents worked tirelessly to build on that opportunity. My first job was as a day laborer on the construction of the Long Island Expressway more than 50 years ago. The wealth that was created by my investments wasn't put into a giant swimming pool as so many elected demagogues seem to imagine. Instead it benefitted our employees, their families and our community at large.

I stand behind no one in my enthusiasm and dedication to improving our society and especially our health care. It's worth adding that it makes little sense to send Treasury checks to high net-worth people in the form of Social Security. That includes you, me and scores of members of Congress. Why not cut through that red tape, Mr. President, and apply a basic means test to that program? Just make sure that money actually reduces federal spending and isn't simply shifted elsewhere. I guarantee you that many millionaires and billionaires will gladly forego it—as my wife and I already do when we forward those checks each month to charity.

It's not too late to include the voices of experienced business people in your efforts, small business owners in particular. Americans would be right to wonder why you haven't already.

i would have no problem paying higher taxes if i had more say/control over how the money is spent.

for example, i can choose a restaurant for dinner, (sometimes) choose where i sit, choose my food selection, and choose the service tip at the end. government isn't that multiple-choice, but something between the hopeless idiots in office now and my say in tonight's dinner plans would be great!

You do have say, you elect your leaders. It's absurd to think it should go beyond that.

No, LICC - I posted the whole story with the link.

I'll only remind you that in the good-old-days of 1979, there was more regulation on business than there is today. If you're supporting going back to the days of no-minimum-wage and sweatshops, just come out and say it. We'll listen.

Langone highlights that the tax system creates inefficiencies including the time spent on avoidance.

There is also a difference between the "rich" and those trying to get rich. It would take someone earning $250k per year 4000 years to have earned $1billion. And if you factor in taxes, 8000 years, and if you factor in annual living expenses ...

We shouldn't be making our country punish those trying to get rich.

Of course all the taxes do is sop up the extra dollars around that the government doesn't want in ciruclation. The Federal government doesn't actually fund anything via taxes.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/10/28/world/americas/AP-LT-Brazil-McDonalds-Obese-Manager.html?hp

"Of course all the taxes do is sop up the extra dollars around that the government doesn't want in ciruclation."

There goes your "inflation" argument, RS. You are entirely self-inconsistent.

"The Federal government doesn't actually fund anything via taxes."

What have you done to say that, redefine "fund"?

Why would you want the economy of the 1970s? In steve's bizarro mind, the 1970s was nirvana.

If Good Times,All in the Family & Sanford & Son taught me nothing, it ws that the 1970's were prosperous happy times

Don't forget Welcome Back Kotter . . .

"If we tried to start The Home Depot today, it's a stone cold certainty that it would never have gotten off the ground..."

"We opened the front door in 1979, also a time of severe economic slowdown."

So the Home Depot founder wants to return to the days of Jimmy Carter?

No, I think he's saying that its even worse now somehow.

mid seventies the stok and ny re mkt were as bad as ever, courtesy of nixon and ford

member "whip inflation now"--now that's leadership!!

thank god volcker disciplined our economy during the late seventies, paving the way for the proaperity of the eighties--

WIN buttons (Whip Inflation Now)
worn upside-down (NIM): Not Improving Much

fruits of which ronnieduh some credit with--sorta like W who inherited a f'ing surplus economy and turned it to complete

doggie dooooo--a real mess we will work to clean up after for a loooong time

cant wait to read the book W "wrote"--i doubt he will

"Why would you want the economy of the 1970s? In steve's bizarro mind, the 1970s was nirvana."

Exactly the opposite, LIC - in Ken Langone's bizarro mind, the 1970's was nirvana.

Maybe the lazy and unmotivated should step it up and start paying their fair share of taxes.

The problem, Jersey Housewife, is that they have so much money they can successfully bribe politicians to keep from paying their fair share of taxes, and instead shift it down to working people.

The problem, street easy anti-semite, is that they are unproductive and uncreative and expect the producers and creators to pay their share.

You got that right. Tell the Koch brothers and the Gallo and Walton families to get off their asses and do something for a change, instead of lobbying to avoid taxation.

It's like that old (Smith Barney?) ad: "We make money the old-fashioned way ... THEY earn it."

By 1979 everyone knew Carter would be out and brighter times were ahead. Hopefully 2012 will bring the same result.

so...do you think that the iranian hostage crisis is what lost carter the election or that was irrelevant?

"You do have say, you elect your leaders. It's absurd to think it should go beyond that."

Everyone who watches South Park knows that the choices are Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich. The 2 party system basically fields 2 inept candidates every time. I didn't elect these leaders, the system did.

oh, silly LICC. YOu dumb Republicans are never going to get aywhere sicne you guys nominate the craziest people you can find.

Like Barney Frank is sane.

Or Alan Grayson.

Barney Frank has won election 15 times and is 13 points ahead of his Republican challenger. Dems generally don't nominate nut jobs with no chances of winning, exlcuding Alvin Greene.

You contradicted yourself.

no, I did not. A person is onyl a nut job if they are crazy enough not to have any chance of winning. Someone who stands a chance at winning is not a nut job.

If a 15 term incumbent has only 48% with a few days left... Big big trouble.

julia ugly one

how frustrated you are.

There will be a massacre on Tuesday. Get ready boys and girls.

and then what?

nirvana?

will you be less frustrated?

how long has it been......?

very long i'd imagine

There will be what there always is at midterm elections, a swing towards the opposition. Dog bites man.

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[2pac]
Shit don't stop [2x]

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And if you clip when the shit happens, it don't stop

[chorus] Shit don't stop...

[Y.N.V]
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You can dance at the party and not get whipped [1x]

[Macadoshis]
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[Rated R]
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[Macadoshis]
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[Rated R]
That's why my deaf niggas don't play that shit
In thug life niggas be the craziest

[Macadoshis]
So when you think about fuckin' this
You better wear a vest
But it really don't matter
We ain't aimin' at your chest

[Rated R]
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That's all the fat lady wrote

[Macadoshis]
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But it don't pay when i flaunt your brain

[Rated R]
Nigga, ain't no plain cane brothers come no show
In the casket
Git'n they ass kicked
And blasted

It don't stop

[chorus 1x]

[Mopreme]
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Spin bank on thangs sellin me a sponsor on my foes
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I got my 9 nigga
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[Syke]
And pussies we crossin when my crew is flossin'
Bitches we tossin'
And niggas we crossin'
It's like a murder rhyme when we hit your hood
It's all good
The punks? I wish you would!

[Mopreme]
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Instead of kickin' dust
Gets a press y'all from nuts
Cause ain't no herbs here
And ain't no morgues
Beware of the water 'cause they full of sharks

[Syke]
But in every state
Niggas perpetrate and test
Where I come from fools die for less
And thugs keep thugin' till their casket drop
It's on 'till I die
And the shit don't stop

[chorus 2x]

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Lennon/McCartney

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barny frank will lose Tuesday, it will be a democratic slaughter.

He is not crazy because liberal voters kept electing him? Very faulty logic.

'Massacre'
Thursday, 28 Oct 2010 12:16 PM Article Font Size
By: David A. Patten

The magnitude of the GOP wave on Nov. 2 remains unknown, but one harsh reality is already crashing in on moderate and conservative congressional Democrats: Blue dogs are expected to become an endangered species after Nov. 2.

MSNBC analyst, columnist, and author Patrick J. Buchanan recently used the term "massacre" to describe the fate that awaits members of the Blue Dog Coalition.

Democratic pollster and Fox News commentator Douglas Schoen tells Newsmax that blue dogs face electoral "carnage."

And respected political analyst Charlie Cook says that the next blue dog meeting can be held in "a really small room" — meaning there won't be many of them left.

Editor's Note: See "Profiles in Courage: 10 Democrats Opposing Obama"

That blue dog ranks would suffer major losses this Election Day may seem somewhat counterintuitive. After all, many of them voted against healthcare reform, energy cap & trade, and other elements of the Obama agenda that grass-roots conservatives found so objectionable.

This midterm, however, the blunt truths of politics are expected to outweigh nuanced votes cast on the floor of the House.

"My belief is that most of the blue dogs will be euthanized on Tuesday, and the kennels will fall silent," conservative columnist and author Patrick J. Buchanan tells Newsmax.

One reason it's open season on relatively conservative Democrats: The party expanded base in Congress by recruiting candidates from traditional GOP strongholds like Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee.

This year, the Republican enthusiasm edge is expected to spur strong GOP turnout in those districts. And that's very bad news for middle-of-the-road Democrats who find themselves wearing the wrong color jerseys this year.
Consider that according to RealClearPolitics, of the 65 members of the Blue Dog Coalition, 12 have races rated as "toss ups," and 14 more are listed as likely to swing to the GOP.

That means 40 percent of blue dogs are very susceptible to defeat on Nov. 2.

The poster child for this year's blue-dog dilemma is South Dakota Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin.

Two years ago, she won her race going away with 68 percent of the vote. In Congress, she voted against healthcare reform and energy cap & trade.
This year, however, she's in a fight for her life against GOP challenger Kristi Noem. Some polls show Noem leading by as much as 5 points. Others indicate Herseth Sandlin is up by as much as 3 points. The race is too close to call.

The pressure is so great this year that some moderate Democrats are running ads touting their opposition to healthcare reform. Others are trying to assuage voters' ire by pledging not to vote for Nancy Pelosi to return as House Speaker, if Democrats somehow hold on to the majority.

"I expect carnage, serious carnage," Democratic pollster and Fox News contributor Douglas Schoen tells Newsmax, who says if current trends continue the GOP will gain 55 to 60 seats on Election Day.

Buchanan asked political guru Charlie Cook on MSNBC's Morning Joe just how bad things look for the blue dogs.

Cook response: "I think the blue dogs — and I think that they play a very positive role in this Congress — but I think they're going to be able to have their meetings in a really small room once this is all over with. They're going to be more than 'blue dog' singular, but there aren't going to be very many of them."

The semi-demise of the blue dogs this cycle could well have a major impact on the remainder of President Obama's presidency. Without its moderates, the gravitational pull of the Democratic caucus will be that much stronger to the left. That could make it difficult for President Obama to strike deals with the more right-leaning Republicans in the 112th Congress.

"The question I would have," Cook said on MSNBC, "is even if [Ohio Rep. John] Boehner and [Maryland Democrat Steny] Hoyer sat down together and tried to work out an arrangement, I'm not sure either one of them could make their deal stick within their caucus. Because the Republican caucus is going to be a heck of a lot more conservative than Boehner, and the Democratic one a lot more liberal than Steny Hoyer. And then the president is down at the other end of the avenue."

Buchanan tells Newsmax that minus the blue dogs, the chances for compromises with the Obama administration look slim.

"The Democratic Party in the House will be a bruised, battered and bitter party, more liberal than it is today, a scorched party which will not be amenable to compromises with an exultant right-wing and tea party Republicans, who want to take an ax to social programs that are the pride of the Democratic Party.

"The anger and nastiness of the 2010 campaign will, I think, endure into the New Year. MSNBC and Fox will not be smoking peace pipes anytime soon," he says.