Living in Murray Hill

So true.

Actually, Windsor Court is in Kips Bay (or actually more like Little India), not Murray Hill (per SE)

Upside, Brother Jimmys next door. Love those chipotle wings.

dormandy court!

Curry Hill

Yikes. For me, the whole point of moving to the city in your early 20s is precisely to get away from the insular (but fun) college experience; to meet new, interesting, different people, not to mention partake in activities slightly different from those you had in college. Also, I'm still amazed when kids are somehow paying $1600/mo to split a 1BR and can afford much else (I know, mom and dad...).

@marco Dormandy court? I thought that building was on the UES?

bjw2103, you know who those kids are (en masse). If you were their parents, wouldn't you cough up the big bucks to keep them out of your house, having finally tasted freedom from them when they went off to Syracuse or Ho-Ho-Kus Community College or whatever?

"friends gather in apartments for so-called pregames" how old is this author??

i miss murray hill/kips bay.. lot of closeted 20-something frat bottoms who move in before moving to hell's kitchen a year later to be closer to their online/Grindr tricks

What other areas in the city, have the convenience, full-service buildings, amenities, transportation, etc that Murray Hill has?

Good compromise area, and more affordable than buying.

it is..but its the same kind of place

alan, maybe I'll know that feeling someday. I guess I would just hope my kids would have better taste. Plus, if you're spending $20k+ a year on rent (times however many kids - scary), you have to pray they don't get used to the luxury and demand more and better housing as the get older. Then again, if they went to Ho-Ho-Kus Community (please tell me there really is such a place!), you probably didn't have to spend much in the way of education.

"you have to pray they don't get used to the luxury and demand more and better housing as the get older"

Not to worry. They don't strike me as the types that would want to stick around the city beyond their 20s (except maybe the ones hol4 is referring to). At some point they will realize that there are sports bars, gyms and frozen yogurt in the suburbs as well.

"What other areas in the city, have the convenience, full-service buildings, amenities, transportation, etc that Murray Hill has?"

Hmmm... a lot.

Transportation is ok, not great. Considering the heart of the strip is 3rd ave, you basically have the local green stop.... and maybe you can hike to the 28th NR, which is definitely out of neighborhood. You are further from midtown than the E50s (a similar neighborhood in terms of folks who live there if you talk about the 2nd ave thoroughfare) and even the south end of the UES/UWS

I'd say its maybe average, maybe below average for convenience, amenities, etc.

Restaurants I'd say are fairly below average with the exception of Jaya and a couple others. Much more medicore stuff - Brother Jimmy's, Rodeo Bar, Blockheads, Cinema Diner... this is a bar area, not so much a restaurant area.

green stop? really?

Enjoy the splendors of the Ho-Ho-Kus higher educational offerings. If you click on the link, there is groovy "I study serious stuff" music.

http://www.50states.com/cc/detail/nj/184959.htm

"green stop? really?"

I think swe really does live swe. Boston maybe ;)

No hitting below the belt.

Now, I couldn't have said IRT for the tourists, could I?

Nice cover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eylKBJiDNeM

chasingwamus, rs's youtubes have turned me off generally from the genre, but i thought the source might be better.

awesome.

ChasingWamus, that youtube was superawesome -- the NYT article was taken directly from it; it in turn was taken directly from real life!

now, that is amazing..hilarious video..

Does swe live in Brookline?

How big are these apartments? It seems silly to be squeezing in two people into a 1 bedroom unless you want to argue who gets the top bunk... kind of kills off part of the whole lux, full service building cache, no?

At this point in NYC real estate, $3,200 for that one bedroom could pay the mortgage on a decent starter 1 bed apartment in Manhattan, especially if you can find a good deal. It makes sense since I seriously don't think these parents and kids are crunching the numbers like an expert... parents are just throwing cash at these kids to make sure they have a comfortable lifestyle and they want them "taken care of". Plus, buying a place elsewhere would get them away from this collegiate lifestyle that is seriously a shame when you're living in one of the greatest cities with the greatest opportunity to meet people.

Also, when reading this:
"Celebrity can be fickle, and Ms. Katz said Murray Hill “is starting to lose its coolness.” Indeed, whenever she is asked where she lives, Ms. Katz answers Murray Hill, “but I say it with a sarcastic tone because I’m making fun of myself.” "

Did anyone immediately think of the satirical scene in American Psycho when the gothic couple at dinner starts the convo?:
"I've heard SOHO is becoming too commercial"
"Yes, Yes! I've heard that!"

Sound like spoiled brats at Windsor Court...

the obvious question:

WhoTF is the Murray in Murray Hill?

>WhoTF is the Murray in Murray Hill?

Interesting question. Can we assume you live in Turtle Bay?

in cleveland murray hill is little italy

From Wiki on "Murray"

Murray Hill derives its name from the Murray family, 18th-century Quaker merchants mainly concerned with shipping and overseas trade. Robert Murray (1721–1786), the family patriarch, was born in Pennsylvania and came to New York in 1753 after a short residence in North Carolina. He quickly established himself as a merchant and eventually owned more shipping tonnage than any other New Yorker. About 1762 Murray rented land from the city for a great house and farm. His great house, which he named Inclenberg (or Belmont), but which was popularly termed Murray Hill, was built on a since-leveled hill at what is today Park Avenue and 36th Street. The great square house was approached by an avenue of mixed trees leading from the Boston Post Road;[3] it was surrounded on three sides with verandas— or “piazzas” as they were called in New York— and commanded views of the East River over Kips Bay. The total area was just over 29 acres (117,000 m²). In today’s terms, the farm began a few feet (meters) south of 33rd Street and extended north to the middle of the block between 38th and 39th Streets. At the southern end, the plot was rather narrow, but at the northern end it extended from approximately Lexington Avenue to a spot between Madison and Fifth Avenues.[4]

The Inclenberg was an abrupt, steep-sided mound of glacial till typical of Manhattan Island's still-unmodified post-glacial terrain: this "hill of the rudest and most heterogeneous mixture of stone and gravel and boulders, cemented together into a matrix of almost impenetrable density existed, crowning the underlying schist... It had a natural rise from 34th Street, sinking towards 42nd Street and reaching from Lexington Avenue to Broadway."[5] Such a soil would have been unpromising had Murray intended seriously to farm it; instead the house, like the other grand expressions of preeminent urban social position that crowned most of Manhattan's prominent rises of ground[6] had other uses: "although some of these estates grew crops for profit," the historians of New York Edwin G. Burrows and Mike Wallace observe,[7] "their primary purpose— besides providing refuge from epidemics— was to serve as theaters of refinement".

I will now call it Inclenberg Hill instead.

It always seemed a bit schisty to me. Thanks for the confirm.

Nice video Wamus.

cmon, hburg/hfs/lucysorry etcetcetc---let it out---youre about to flip out--just let it happen

you know, only one other poster here calls me lucy, gabrielle gaby...just sayin