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First time home buyer question.

Started by paulsoncall
almost 11 years ago
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I put an offer in on my first co-op and it was accepted. I am working without a buyer's agent. I have a real estate attorney who has the contract, and we're getting together sometime this week to go over it. Last week I had an inspection on the place and found a few things that need to be replaced. To me they are minor, but he found that all the electrical outlets in the kitchen don't work and both the bathroom and kitchen drain pipes need to be replaced. Do I raise these issues with the seller's broker now or is this something I work on with my lawyer to put into the contract; that I either want them fixed or want buyer's credit to fix myself. I'm new to the whole process and working without an agent so most of my research has been done online. Appreciate the help.
Response by crescent22
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 953
Member since: Apr 2008

Get the broker involved. It's another voice to tell the owner he needs to have it in working order or to give a monetary credit in the contract.

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Response by John75
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 88
Member since: Nov 2011

A rookie's mistake. First time homebuyer and you picked a coop???? If I were you I would do condo or house and I would get a broker to represent me (it is a free service for a buyer). In any case, buying a coop means buying shares in a corporation, not actual property. Which leads me to your question if you should raise the issue of replacing the bathroom and kitchen drain pipes now.

If I were you, I would definitely raise the issue now. DO NOT FORGET THAT FOR ANY WORK IN YOUR APARTMENT THE COOP BOARD WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THE WORK. How do you know that the board will approve REPLACEMENT OF BATHROOM AND KITCHEN DRAIN PIPES? And if the board approves, do you know how long it will take? Min. 6 months.

You will be new in the building and you will try to do this kind of work? This means noise, worker traffic in/out of the building, dust, dirt, etc. None of your fellow shareholders will be eager to approve your work.

Either raise the issue now or walk away. Buy some real property.

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Response by crescent22
almost 11 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2008

Youre an idiot, John. OP could have negotiated himself a lower price with the savings, and OP can buy more apartment for a fixed spending level with a coop.

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Response by John75
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 88
Member since: Nov 2011

read the OP question, then read my reply and then sit back and think who is the idiot.....you are not really good in reading or your comprehension skills are really low....

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Response by truthskr10
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 4088
Member since: Jul 2009

Wow really?
I KNOW the board will approve replacement of bathroom and kitchen drain pipes.
The neighbors and board members will prefer working drains to clogged ones that might flood their apartments.
Just like a condo would. Rules are good thing. you'll appreciate when your neighbors need work done.

Paulson you should be asking your lawyer how to handle it.
If the contract says "as is" condition which it likely does, its a judgement call on whether you want to bring it up early or after your in contract.
A good buyer's lawyer will at least try to have a provision for substantial repairs to be corrected, either by doing the work or more likely a monetary cap for repairs.

And have no fear about first time home buying a co-op. Best investment decision I've made in 10 years.

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Response by streetsmart
almost 11 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009

One never knows what the future will hold. But when the downturn comes although it may take awhile, co-ops will not allow renting which some people resort to in hard times.

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Response by crescent22
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 953
Member since: Apr 2008

I think I responded appropriately, johnny boy. I didnt address the repair part, but replacing a drain pipe is not a big deal, co-op or not.

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Response by truthskr10
almost 11 years ago
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Streetsmart that's kind of a blanket aspersion.
Some do.
Some require you live at least 2 years in the apartment. Some require you cant lease for more than 2 years in a row.
And for those few who hit rough times that are so affected by a "downturn" that half to rent out their home probably wouldnt make it past an asset screening in a "stiff" co-op anyway.

Its like not investing in the stock market for the last 5 years because "another crash is coming." Well corrections are guaranteed every 10 to 20 years. Cant live 10 years of fear for the poor 2/3 years.

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Response by truthskr10
almost 11 years ago
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edit
cant believe I wrote "half to" rent out. Obviously meant "have to"

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Response by rb345
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 1273
Member since: Jun 2009

Paul/;

1. in the wall plumbing such as drain piping should be the Coop's financial responsibility
2. raising such petty issues could cost you your contract

3. no broker, no piece

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