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Started by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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Discussion about 426 West 58th Street #1A
I still continue to see good values such as this. Beautiful pre-war building. Not sure why the broker did not mention that first floor is raised at least 3 feet from the street level - similar to parlor floor of townhouses - leading to increase privacy from the street.
Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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Also, not sure why the broker is not putting this on the "featured" listing on Streeteasy to get more eye-balls.

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Response by KeithBurkhardt
over 8 years ago
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Price per square foot is certainly compelling. However light appears to be a bit challenged.

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Response by CCL3
over 8 years ago
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Yes, you can tell from the listing there will not be a lot of light, and the single windows in each bedroom are small--kind of depressing. That's why it's priced as it is.

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Response by ChasingWamus
over 8 years ago
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Hallway heavy layout.

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Response by Elleinad85
over 8 years ago
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Um...every photo the window blinds are closed...very horrible photos!!! Only 20 people saved it after 16 days on the market...total bust!!!

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Response by ChasingWamus
over 8 years ago
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I didn't notice the carrying costs. $15K/month w/mortgage is pretty steep for this, must be a cap rate nadir.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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Chasing, How much monthly with 5/1 arm 3 percent interest only without tax deduction?

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Response by 300_mercer
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CC, Light in the back bedrooms is indeed low. Middle bedroom should have better light.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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Elleinad, Horrible pictures indeed from some no named broker.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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Did not even occur to the broker to put lobby and building photos which looking at the other listings and building photos are spectacular. Also not sure why some would make the front windows opaque rather than using sheers / other window treatment.

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Response by ChasingWamus
over 8 years ago
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What's your opinion on what this would rent for? Maybe 7K? So using the 10 x rent method, it produces about 10K a year in income after the 60K of maintenance /taxes/vacancy.

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Response by ChasingWamus
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That would put the cap rate under half a percent.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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Chasing, Min $9k if not 10k. Min for a door man is $4 per d Condo in nyc do not trade based on the commercial real estate method

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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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Sorry hit reply accidentally

Chasing, Min $9k if not 10k. Min for a door man is $4 per sq ft with a doorman after adjusting for light etc. Condos in nyc do not trade based on the commercial real estate method. For this type of condo, you will get 1% cap rate using the commercial. What do you think the new developments are trading at in terms of cap rates?

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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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Chasing,
What is the cap rate here (1-1.25%) and why is it trading there?
http://streeteasy.com/sale/1132756
http://streeteasy.com/building/30-park-place-new_york/62d

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Response by streetsmart
over 8 years ago
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$15K with mortgage is not pretty steep. With 20% down , to round off the numbers, let's say $2M loan, payment comes to about $10K a month plus cc and real estate almost $5K. $10K a month for a $2M loan, is very good.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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With 5/1 I/O, 3% you are paying only $60k per year less appx 10k tax deduction. Principal payments are just savings. So real mortgage interest payment is closer to $4.5k even if you end up paying 3.25% I/O. Most people will put 25% or more down at this price point to get the best rates.

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