I'm getting conflicting information regarding the addition of a new bathroom in an old building. I was first told that the bathroom has to be accessible, but it can comply with the NYC Bathroom Prototypes passed in 2015: http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/buildings/rules/1_RCNY_1101-01_prom_details_date.pdf "Section 1101-01 (a) For alterations in buildings originally occupied: (1) on or before March 13,... [more]
I'm getting conflicting information regarding the addition of a new bathroom in an old building. I was first told that the bathroom has to be accessible, but it can comply with the NYC Bathroom Prototypes passed in 2015:
http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/buildings/rules/1_RCNY_1101-01_prom_details_date.pdf
"Section 1101-01 (a) For alterations in buildings originally occupied:
(1) on or before March 13, 1991 ..."
My architect is saying that the prototypes only apply to existing bathrooms, not new bathrooms. I thought for existing bathrooms alterations none of this applied if you use existing rough-ins?
The difference is basically room for a 15" grab bar next to the toilet, vs. 42" which is a big difference.
Does anyone have experience with this?
Thanks!
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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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If it is a new bathroom addition (existence of plumbing does not matter), and there is no other ADA compliant bathroom in the apartment, the new bathroom will need to be ADA compliant even if the building elevator and entrance is not. Silly but that is what I discovered during my reno. A handicapped person may not be able to get into the building but the new bathrooms need to be ADA compliant.
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Response by pw036
over 8 years ago
Posts: 36
Member since: Feb 2017
I think there are different definitions of "ADA compliant" or adaptable, and that's what my question is.
The NYC DOB has created a special set of less strict accessibility requirements for "alterations in buildings that were originally occupied on or before March 13, 1991", otherwise the full Chapter 11 Accessibility requirements apply.
One example of that is the toilet side grab bar, which would need to be 42" long rather than 15" from the prototypes. The new bathroom I'm proposing has room for the 15" bar, but not 42" and I'm getting conflicting answers regarding this.
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If it is a new bathroom addition (existence of plumbing does not matter), and there is no other ADA compliant bathroom in the apartment, the new bathroom will need to be ADA compliant even if the building elevator and entrance is not. Silly but that is what I discovered during my reno. A handicapped person may not be able to get into the building but the new bathrooms need to be ADA compliant.
I think there are different definitions of "ADA compliant" or adaptable, and that's what my question is.
The NYC DOB has created a special set of less strict accessibility requirements for "alterations in buildings that were originally occupied on or before March 13, 1991", otherwise the full Chapter 11 Accessibility requirements apply.
One example of that is the toilet side grab bar, which would need to be 42" long rather than 15" from the prototypes. The new bathroom I'm proposing has room for the 15" bar, but not 42" and I'm getting conflicting answers regarding this.