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Brooklyn Point

Started by CCL3
almost 8 years ago
Posts: 430
Member since: Jul 2014
Since this is a Condop I'm guessing that means land lease? Impressive that they have a bunch in contract already despite projected 2020 completion. Even with spectacular views you are still paying $$$ for a small apartment in downtown brooklyn.
Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 2 years ago
Posts: 9881
Member since: Mar 2009

And after they buy the LAND as the sole fee owner, they end up owning the the other 2 units also?

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Response by Bklndent
over 2 years ago
Posts: 69
Member since: Apr 2014

After buying the land for $1 the unit owners can decide to either remain a co-op or convert to condo. It is true there will be legal costs to convert to condo, so unsure what owners will decide to do in 22 more years. Perhaps the building will just remain a co-op. In any case, it was and is a great deal and the building is 80% sold.

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Response by Bklndent
over 2 years ago
Posts: 69
Member since: Apr 2014

Ha @30 "More disinformation and obfuscation." Always was and always will be a dope.

I hope one day you, too, will be able to live in one of the buildings you spend so much of your time trying to needlessly denigrate.

Do you live in NJ?

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 2 years ago
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The building isn't a Coop.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 2 years ago
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And readers should understand that Bklndent is a self interested party who personally benefits from the spread of this disinformation.

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Response by Bklndent
over 2 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2014

I own a unit here so I think that I and the rest of the 400 units that have been sold, and their real estate attorneys, understand that we have shares in a corporation and that we are indeed a co-op. Thanks for the legal advice. Send another message when you go to law school, pass the BAR and can offer better legal advice than what we all paid for. Thanks!!! =)

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 2 years ago
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The BUILDING is a 3 unit condominium. But go ahead and keep up the disinformation campaign. It's quite entertaining.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 2 years ago
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I'm sure the legal advice you got was just as good as anyone who ever purchased at 100 West 57th Street (or 101 West 23rd Street for that matter).

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Response by stache
over 2 years ago
Posts: 1303
Member since: Jun 2017

Psst - 30 lives in Manhattan. Neener neener -

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 2 years ago
Posts: 9881
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30 has also bought 100X more units than Bklndent.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
about 2 years ago
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So, Bklndent, how much did you rent your unit for?

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Response by Rinette
about 2 years ago
Posts: 653
Member since: Dec 2016

Having to explain a condop to someone reminds me of that Seinfeld episode when Elaine got a 929 area code and nobody wanted to date her.

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Response by Aaron2
about 2 years ago
Posts: 1705
Member since: Mar 2012

And how's ownership working out for buyers? Let's take a quick look at the 2 resale units listed:

* 15F, 2br, apparently closed for $1,923,401 on 6/9/22, currently on the market for 1,908,000, and seller offering to cover a year of maintenance. On the market for > 100 days.

* 37G, studio, apparently closed for $990,263, on 1/5/21, currently on the market for $990,000, after being taken off the market in Aug 2023 after being nobody bit following a drop to $988,000 in April 2023. Nobody biting at the current ask either after nearly 100 days on the market.

Maybe the owners rented the units out and made buckets full of money on the rental income in the intervening period. Or maybe not.

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Response by KeithBurkhardt
about 2 years ago
Posts: 2988
Member since: Aug 2008

It's certainly a problem, purchasing condos in New York City with all the transaction costs that go along with that, and not holding for a minimum of at least 10 years. At least until recently, the building was covering all closing costs including Mansion tax and they're paying brokers a 5% commission, which equals a pretty substantial rebate.

Keith Burkhardt
TBG

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Response by inonada
about 2 years ago
Posts: 7952
Member since: Oct 2008

>> And how's ownership working out for buyers? Let's take a quick look at the 2 resale units listed…

That kinda seems like how the rest of the market is behaving these days. I’m not sure those facts makes this building special, although it could be for other reasons perhaps.

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Response by Aaron2
about 2 years ago
Posts: 1705
Member since: Mar 2012

@nada: Yes -- I don't think this building is a particular standout from the current market, either positive or negative. There are certainly some hair raising examples in other condos and coops. And, my quick lookup didn't consider how the owners might have had offsetting profits from rental income. I mostly just liked noting that the two current listings are a strong counter to the dominant 'real estate always go up' mentality. (I'll save my rant on people treating r.e. as an equity product rather than it's own asset class with a reasonable place in a total portfolio for another day.)

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
about 2 years ago
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Aaron2,
Just wait until they purchase the land! (Insert largest possible sarcasm emoji here)

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Response by Markymark
over 1 year ago
Posts: 7
Member since: Jan 2019

What's the latest? Has anyone ascertained what happens in 2045? I have seen a few resale priced below original purchase price.

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Response by Rinette
over 1 year ago
Posts: 653
Member since: Dec 2016

2045 will be here and gone before you know it.

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Response by stache
over 1 year ago
Posts: 1303
Member since: Jun 2017

Me too!

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 1 year ago
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What a great investment!

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
5 months ago
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Anyone know exactly how many out of 458 have been sold in 6 years?

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Response by inonada
5 months ago
Posts: 7952
Member since: Oct 2008

Too lazy to count it out… but please tell us!

I’ll go with 252?!?!??

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