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Started by CrappyMarket
about 17 years ago
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aCnxy9pXB7O0 NYC Apartment Rents Fell in November, Vacancies Rose (Update2) By Sharon L. Lynch Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Manhattan apartment rents fell for a fourth consecutive month in November and vacancy rates reached 2 percent for the first time in almost two years as Wall Street’s financial turmoil took a toll on the housing market. Rents... [more]
Response by CrappyMarket
about 17 years ago
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“If I’m a tenant, I’m certainly going to have more options of apartments to look at,” Malin said. “They are also going to have more options when it comes to pricing.”

per the President of CitiHabitats.

How come he doesn't mention that the owner pays the broker fee if renting in a non-rental building (i.e. co-op or condo)

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Response by CrappyMarket
about 17 years ago
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One bedrooms for $3,637 is a good benchmark ... anyone looking now and considering paying more should bring this article with them. And that is in the most expensive area.

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Response by cccharley
about 17 years ago
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The figures didn't differentiate bw doorman and non doorman - big difference in rents there. Still I knew it was falling because I just rented. Rent was at least 15% lower than last year

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Response by julia
about 17 years ago
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cccharley...I didn't find doorman bldgs. much lower..was your 15% price drop thru negotiation with your landlord or was it a different apartment bldg.

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Response by cccharley
about 17 years ago
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No I'm moving buildings. I know that my landlord offered no increase this year - I just got my lease renewal - I wouldn't have signed it without asking for a rent decrease actually - but I'm moving so no need. I know at the peak 1 brs here at Windsor Ct were over $3600 a month. Now they are around $3050 or so - probably less because I think they are giving a free month. The new apt, a jr 4, are $3800 here at Windsor so I assume it was similarly priced at Rivergate where I'm going.

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Response by VWear
about 17 years ago
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In the new buildings I have not seen a decline but I have seen apartment sitting for longer than usual which of course means they will eventually decline. "Luxury" rental buildings are crazy - they are hardly luxury for most of them unless they've been built in the past 5 years or so.

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Response by VWear
about 17 years ago
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For the ones built recently, $4200 to $4400 for a 1BR seems standard and insane at the same time ... when you do the rent vs buy math, these rents for 1BRs almost push you into buy category.

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Response by HotMarket
about 17 years ago
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Tight Rental Market Heats Up; Vacancy Rate to 0.8%

Summer Real Estate Guide

By SARAH PORTLOCK
Special to the Sun
June 14, 2007

The summer is astonishingly tough to find an apartment — the market is swarmed with college graduates and new hires looking for their first New York domicile, and landlords respond by setting higher rents to meet increased demand.
In May, the average price of a studio apartment crossed the $2,000 mark for the first time with Manhattan's vacancy rate hovering at 0.8%, according data from one of the city's leading real estate firms, CitiHabitats.
The chief operating officer of CitiHabitats, Gary Malin, said the market works in favor of property owners, and prospective tenants need to think and act fast.
"It's still a landlord's market. It's not like people can take their time," Mr. Malin said. "Landlords are going to push the levels of their rent as high as they can."
An executive vice president with Prudential Douglas Elliman, Tamir Shemesh, said he often works with landlords in the winter to develop 18-month leases so the apartment is available again by June.

"We're anticipating that the market will be stronger in the summer," Mr. Shemesh said. "It will be faster and more money for the landlord."
As of yesterday evening, there were only 301 studios available in all of Manhattan to rent for under $2,000. The least expensive apartment in Manhattan is currently a two-bedroom in Washington Heights for $824 a month, according to citywide leasing data from Prudential Douglas Elliman.
A property manager for Equity Residential, John Costa, said prices in his building have increased nearly 10% since Memorial Day. Last week, the Financial District high-rise he manages leased five apartments and immediately raised the prices of other available units. A studio now costs $3,000 a month this week, up from $2,700 three weeks ago.
"If our occupancy is higher, the rents will be higher," Mr. Costa said.
The trend this summer follows the general theme of low vacancy across Manhattan. The vacancy rate so far this year is 0.8 percent, and it is expected to remain below 2 percent for 2007, the real estate investment services firm Marcus and Millichap announced this week.
But while the market is prime for rental brokers, Mr. Malin said there are still some lingering frustrations — namely, that his agents can't develop the same relationships with clients they like to when the market can cause so much stress.
"Clearly, if the vacancy was a little bit looser I think people would be happier overall. Customers could have more normalcy," he said. "You want to develop this rapport with your client and sometimes this type of market puts a little pressure on that."

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Response by savmav
about 17 years ago
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Things I'm looking at are owner pays in condos, but maybe I'm missing a good deal at a lower rent where I would pay? Probably not as I think you have realistic owners and unrealistic owners in this market, and the realistic owners are doing what it takes to get some cash flow out of their property and the unrealistic owners are paired with more aggressive, more tone-deaf brokers.

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