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My Landlord kindly dropped my rent 18%

Started by shirlee
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 4
Member since: Apr 2009
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So i was in a lease that went to October 2009 and about a week ago i wrote a letter to my landlord carefully explaining i was in a very unfortunate situation. I lost my job in November of 2008 (business marketing). Since then my savings have run low, and unfortunately my investments in the market have lost 60%. I am not sure other landlords will do this, but my certainly understood. I now save ~$450 per month in rent which is a lot for me at the moment. I thought I would share this rent with the board.
Response by counciler
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 104
Member since: Dec 2008

that's it? 18%? i have heard people just pack and leave if they don't get 35-50%. People are so in debt at the moment that all the credit bureau ratings have become meaningless.

landlords are out on a limb.

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Response by counciler
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 104
Member since: Dec 2008

one guy i know was able to stay for free at 2000 square foot apartment in usquare over rent argument for 8 months. Now that's what i'm talking about...

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Response by Slumdog
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 29
Member since: Apr 2009

Did you have to sign a new lease?

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Response by shirlee
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 4
Member since: Apr 2009

no,fortunately i did have to sign a new lease. the 18% deduction per month is good until i move out end of october, 2009.

i plan to stay in my building until then. i think now i'm more comfortable and the building is gorgeous.
i did not try 35-50%, i let the landlord decide and we compromised:)

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Response by shirlee
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 4
Member since: Apr 2009

sorry fortunately "I Did not have to sign a new lease". My current one was re-adjusted.

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Response by stevejhx
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 12656
Member since: Feb 2008

Who is your landlord?

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Response by anonymouss
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 137
Member since: Jan 2007

what was the rent initially? where is your apt? how big is it? when did u rent it?
more details please

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Response by ChasingWamus
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 309
Member since: Dec 2008

So your landlord decided to eat $3150 on your current lease in order to keep you there until October. Based on your numbers ($450 being an 18% discount) I assume your rent was $2500/month. Your landlord decided that it was better to lose one months worth of rent and keep you than lose you and risk x months rent while the apartment sat empty and finally rented at a lower rate.

Sounds like you have a smart landlord.

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Response by shirlee
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 4
Member since: Apr 2009

my building is on the UES. my rent was original $2495-1 bedroom. Full amenity building. I'm not sure i should list exact building because i'm sure others in building would do same thing. it was kind of landlord to do it for me...

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Response by tripel
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 47
Member since: May 2008

what the deal with getting out of a lease if you need to?
ie my lease is up in June, and like you I want to press my landlord for a lower rent, but I may still move mid-year .... anyone know the legal particularities of getting out of a lease?
cheers

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Response by MMAfia
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 1071
Member since: Feb 2007

impossible.

petrfitz, this is a hoax!!!! where are you to save us from such lies?

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 9868
Member since: Aug 2008

You call it "kind"... I call it screwed.

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Response by OTNYC
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 547
Member since: Feb 2009

I recently chatted with a couple moving out of our building. They wanted to stay but the landlord jacked up their rent $300 at the end of the lease. The unit is a $3200 1-bed on a nice block, UWS. I was astonished and said, "No chance the guy is getting any more for this - is he crazy?!". His response was that the landlord got the additional $300 and the new renter was moving in the next day. I am on the board and we discussed this at our last meeting and sure enough, the rent is now $3500. So for those of you hoping to negotiate down 50%, good luck - hope you get it. But don't hold your breath.

As for the person who stayed 8 months for free because he/she refused to pay rent and had a dispute with the landlord, this happens all the time. The real estate laws in NYC are HEAVILY in favor of the tenant. If you have been in a property longer than 30 days (which is why hotels usually don't offer a 30 day consecutive stay unless you have a special arrangement), you have squatter's rights, and it is very difficult to remove a tenant. The process drags on in court and can take over a year. There are sheisters that make a living doing this. But, like declaring bankruptcy, there are downsides as well - I don't know what they are, but I'm sure they're there.

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 9868
Member since: Aug 2008

For every "rent went up" anecdote, there are 20 the other way.

I have 2 friends looking, and they're being given prices on the UES 25% or more off the previous prices.

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Response by Squid
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 1399
Member since: Sep 2008

>>As for the person who stayed 8 months for free because he/she refused to pay rent and had a dispute with the landlord, this happens all the time<<

Yeah, and with that on his record no landlord's ever, I repeat EVER gonna rent to him again. He'll never be able to buy in a co-op building. Hope he enjoyed his misbegotten 8 months--he'll be paying for them for a long time. Sheer idiocy.

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 9868
Member since: Aug 2008

Except that they're now looking at making the sharing of that housing court data illegal...

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Response by mrgopal
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 1
Member since: Jan 2009

I'm a reporter doing a story about the U.S. rental market. If you're in the process of negotiating with your landlord or managed to get a reduction, e-mail me at prashant_gopal@businessweek.com.

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Response by alpine292
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 2771
Member since: Jun 2008

"Except that they're now looking at making the sharing of that housing court data illegal..."

What's your source? Court decisions are a matter of public record. You can find any court decision in the U.S. dating back to the 1800s on the internet in 3 seconds. All you need is a LexisNexis account.

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 9868
Member since: Aug 2008

Crain's. Housing Court currently sells records to tenant reporting agencies, and they're talking about ending that.

I don't think they'll be a lot of lexis searches by apartment owners.

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Response by ladyjay114
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 17
Member since: Feb 2009

rents are down generally, but it depends on many factors including location, # of beds, kind of building & amenities. also, rents aren't going to decrease if a building continues to have low vacancy rates.

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Response by alpine292
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 2771
Member since: Jun 2008

This landlord does Lexis searches on tenants :)

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 9868
Member since: Aug 2008

Well, New Jersey isn't here.... so not sure what that says.

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