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"New York City showed an 88 percent chance of lower prices, according to PMI."

Started by Topper
almost 17 years ago
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Response by Jazzman
almost 17 years ago
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This report is bogus. There is a zero chance that this is the bottom.

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Response by johngalt1945
almost 17 years ago
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Wow. Sobering article. You have to figure that if PMI - those insuring mortgages with tons of empirical evidence - is predicting this, it's scary. At best, we can maybe hope for a quicker recovery, or less % chance of further declines. Either way, we're not even close to bottoming. Hold on to your property as long as you can - it will probably take 10+ years to get back to 2006 levels. OY!!

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
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> it will probably take 10+ years to get back to 2006 levels.

And, in real terms... I wonder if it ever will.

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Response by johngalt1945
almost 17 years ago
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Good point. I was thinking nominally.

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Response by Topper
almost 17 years ago
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Who is johngalt?

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Response by InvestorMan
almost 17 years ago
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Ya know, not to get off topic, but does anyone else who knows who John Galt is find a striking similarity between what happens in the book and what is happening now?

Sometimes I think, perhaps, the names, people, and stories could just be swapped and no one would know the difference...

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Response by mlsquared
almost 17 years ago
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...sobering, indeed. And the one point people are forgetting is demographics. Remember, this boom that started in the early 1970's was fueled by baby-boomers starting families and needing housing. We are now at the dawn of a new decade where the demographics will switch - from 2010 to 2019 there will be a three-fold increase of Americans 65 and older as compared to Americans 25 to 64. And older folks tend to sell, not buy....so we're in for a massive market shift as supply and demand falls out of balance. Hold on to your hat folks...rough road ahead...

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Response by The_President
almost 17 years ago
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I find PMI's report useless considering they don't say HOW MUCH prices will decline. There is an 88% chance of prices in NYC falling by how much? 5%? 25%? 50%?

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
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Its not useless if it convinced somebody not to buy. Doesn't matter how much its going down, its a bad move if you don't need to buy now.

That information would have been helpful to you before you made your mistake. Whether it was 5% or 50%, it would have been the right move to make.

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Response by The_President
almost 17 years ago
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I did not make a mistake. The renters who invested their money in the stock market before it fell 40% did. My house has not lost 40% of its value or even half that much.

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Response by falcogold1
almost 17 years ago
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Uncle Alp...do you know what that means???
12% chance your right!
Congrats on the up-tick.

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Response by ipod
almost 17 years ago
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Mr President ... renters invest over time whereas you are not just fully invested .. you are a leveraged player!!!

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Response by anon10
almost 17 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2009

Man, talk about picking and choosing what reports you want to believe. So now all of the sudden everyone thinks PMI Company is a reliable source for predicting the market?

Where were these great projections, when they kept insuring up to 95% loan to value, during the boom years?? All of these PMI companies lost their shirts, some even left the business altogether.

I would take any analysis done by a company who is tettering on bankruptcy because of prior inaccurate projections with a healthy dose of skepticism.

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