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Price per sq foot

Started by nyc_observer
about 17 years ago
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I've noticed that a lot of postings exaggerate the unit's square footage. It seems to be the norm rather than the exception. Is there a standard practice to add sq footage to account for common areas? Also, in the real estate reports of condo pricing, do they report price per sq foot of the unit's actual size or does it accounting for the size padding?
Response by truthskr10
about 17 years ago
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It's the wild west bro.
Always bring your ruler.
And always point out desrepencies you find.
The more buyers bring it up. The more sellers and their agents realize it reflects poorly on their listing.

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Response by BeanTown
about 17 years ago
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What about looking at the offering plan that they have to file when the current owner purchased the unit?

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Response by BeanTown
about 17 years ago
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so I just read what I posted, ah caramba, going back to grammar school....Ask to see the original offering plan. Another place to look is at the attorney general's office.

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Response by truthskr10
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Beantown
No worse than my butchering the word "discrepancies!"

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Response by kylewest
about 17 years ago
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In condos, in particular, certain amounts of public space are ascribed to the sq/ftage of a given unit. In a coop offering prospectus, this is not the case. Sq/ft quoted in coop sales by owners, however, then to be exaggerated.

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Response by NWT
about 17 years ago
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kylewest, in the condo docs the declarant will cite the "approximate square feet of unit" and in another column the unit's PCI. In another section the method of measurement will be described. I always read here that common areas are divvied up by the PCIs and included in unit square feet, but never seen it in condo docs. Then again, I've read only tens of them, so maybe just not come across it, and have never gone out with surveying tools to measure units.

nyc_observer, if looking at a condo, first thing you should do is an ACRIS search to see who owns it, how much they paid, any liens, and the condo declaration. Use the latter to see the unit's size and check against the listing.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
about 17 years ago
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Every unit currently trades at $657.456789 per square foot. You just have to adjust the square footage to get to the right price.

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Response by dledven
about 17 years ago
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NWT, i went to acris, and can't seem to find the condo declaration? can you assist me, i see the mortgage and other docs i just can't find the condo declaration?

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Response by dledven
about 17 years ago
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30 Years, thats not a fair assessment it depends what the monthly fees are? if low monthly then a higher price... there are just too many variables to answer accurately.

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Response by NWT
about 17 years ago
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dledven, "there are just too many variables to answer accurately" is exactly 30yrs' point. However you measure square feet, a $4,000-per-foot apartment could be a bargain or a rip-off. Ditto for a $200-per-foot apartment.

Post the address (no apt# necessary) and I'll post a link to the condo declaration. It's filed for every unit/lot of the condo. Maybe you're thinking of a co-op. Co-op governing docs aren't on ACRIS.

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Response by dledven
about 17 years ago
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NWT- 79 Worth Street
thanks

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Response by dledven
about 17 years ago
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NWT-its a Condo-

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Response by NWT
about 17 years ago
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dledven, the condo isn't effective yet, so no declaration filed. That's why you don't see any sales yet; there can't be until the condo's effective, the new tax lots created, etc.

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Response by dledven
about 17 years ago
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i understand that but i thought i could still see the offering plan? that has to be filed with AG? ami i wrong?

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Response by NWT
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Sponsors don't file offering plans with the city, so they're not on ACRIS.

Last time I checked, a while ago, the AG didn't make filed offering plans available online, so you'd have to get a copy from the sponsor.

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Response by dledven
about 17 years ago
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thanks there used to be a site that would make all offering plans available, i just can't find the link or remember the site. Thanks for your help

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Response by NWT
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I remember the one you mean. They sell copies of offering plans. Mostly old ones, if I recall. It should turn up on google.

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