I don't know if there is a thread like this one. But since so many discussions are focused on what is happening in todays market,some listings are just adding to the wrong totals figures and thought we need a closing police thread. I stumbled on this one by accident. Did a quick Acris to check to verify and this property does not appear sold as indicated. 136 Baxter st. PHA ... [more]
I don't know if there is a thread like this one. But since so many discussions are focused on what is happening in todays market,some listings are just adding to the wrong totals figures and thought we need a closing police thread.
I stumbled on this one by accident. Did a quick Acris to check to verify and this property does not appear sold as indicated.
136 Baxter st. PHA
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/126663-condo-136-baxter-street-chinatown-new-york
StreetEasy History
10/08/2007Listed in StreetEasy by Stribling at $4,500,000.
03/04/2009Listing is no longer available.
06/05/2009Listing sold.
06/05/2009Sale recorded for $(insiders only)
(recorded sale supposedly 4,000,000)
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/building/136-baxter-street-new_york[less]
Response by aboutready
almost 17 years ago
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i finally did it. went to ACRIS. truthskr10, i think this is it.
Link doesn't work, I don't think it's possible to post live session links with acris.
It needs to be a fresh session.
Anyway, this is new construction and the last bit of action is Oct/2008.
This listing is at best...."contract signed" mode.
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Response by Lases
almost 17 years ago
Posts: 68
Member since: Aug 2009
truthskr10, real buyer here- what do you mean by phony sold listings? I don't understand why that would benefit anyone.... new to this process in NYC & trying to educate myself. Have lots of evidence that this is the slimiest of slimy businesses but always happy to hear new M.O.s Thanx.
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Response by aboutready
almost 17 years ago
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if you search for andreas veith it comes up. didn't look closely at the address details, something might be different there. the sale price definitely matches.
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Response by truthskr10
almost 17 years ago
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Yes you are right aboutready....nice job.
And it shows the alt address for 209-11 Hester. But that's odd. Why when I put in 136 baxter and pha it's not showing the sale? Strange.
Lases
Benefit? Well I could paint a scenario. What if a new development has 10 apartments for sale and want to establish a sale or comp of 1500 per square foot closing price for the other 9?
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Response by Lases
almost 17 years ago
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oooooh..... duh. Isn't there some sort of regulatory board checking these things besides you guys (lol but serious question)? I wouldn't have thought of that in a million years.
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Response by aboutready
almost 17 years ago
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it's weird. you'd think it wouldn't show up on the SE site also, although maybe the broker provided the link. i posted one earlier today about the Lucida. it has two addresses, and Extell is filing under an address that is different from the one used here for marketing. so on SE the lucida page doesn't show any closings, but they have indeed been occurring (extremely anemically).
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Response by truthskr10
almost 17 years ago
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LOL you think that would some regulatory board!!! NYC is the wild west. Just bring your ruler, tape measure, laser measure to open houses with their floorplans and verify the square footage.
"I wouldn't have thought of that in a million years"
Well look at the poll where real estate agents come in
Though considering where "member of congress" came in, the poll may be inaccurate to.
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Response by truthskr10
almost 17 years ago
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Yikes I need to proof read my posts.
I meant "LOL you would think there is some regulatory board!!!
Aboutready
Yeah but I always thought Acris was bulletproof. It always comes up with every alternate. This one was a first.
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Response by Lases
almost 17 years ago
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that's hilarious. you know it's bad when you come in after a banker these days! I'm really new to this whole thing but the education is fast & furious. Last year we got screwed hard by a broker on a rental & this year they're scavenging on each other as we're looking to buy without a buyers broker. Tough going it alone but don't trust anyone.
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Response by truthskr10
almost 17 years ago
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Lases
Buyer's broker is a personal choice, positives and negatives.
Just do your due diligence.
And remember it's a buyer's market.
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Response by Lases
almost 17 years ago
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Thanks Truthskr. I know. I'm just not sure when the brokers are going to figure that out! :-)
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Response by truthskr10
almost 17 years ago
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There are good brokers, like every industry, you have the whores, the thieves, the white knights, and the wheeler dealers.
Use streeteasy, acris, and propertyshark. Most importantly, use patience.
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Response by divvie
almost 17 years ago
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Damn! I know someone with that name and he certainly can afford this price.
Wonder if it's the same guy.
i finally did it. went to ACRIS. truthskr10, i think this is it.
http://a836-acris.nyc.gov/Scripts/DocSearch.dll/PNameResult
Link doesn't work, I don't think it's possible to post live session links with acris.
It needs to be a fresh session.
Anyway, this is new construction and the last bit of action is Oct/2008.
This listing is at best...."contract signed" mode.
truthskr10, real buyer here- what do you mean by phony sold listings? I don't understand why that would benefit anyone.... new to this process in NYC & trying to educate myself. Have lots of evidence that this is the slimiest of slimy businesses but always happy to hear new M.O.s Thanx.
if you search for andreas veith it comes up. didn't look closely at the address details, something might be different there. the sale price definitely matches.
Yes you are right aboutready....nice job.
And it shows the alt address for 209-11 Hester. But that's odd. Why when I put in 136 baxter and pha it's not showing the sale? Strange.
Lases
Benefit? Well I could paint a scenario. What if a new development has 10 apartments for sale and want to establish a sale or comp of 1500 per square foot closing price for the other 9?
oooooh..... duh. Isn't there some sort of regulatory board checking these things besides you guys (lol but serious question)? I wouldn't have thought of that in a million years.
it's weird. you'd think it wouldn't show up on the SE site also, although maybe the broker provided the link. i posted one earlier today about the Lucida. it has two addresses, and Extell is filing under an address that is different from the one used here for marketing. so on SE the lucida page doesn't show any closings, but they have indeed been occurring (extremely anemically).
Lases
LOL you think that would some regulatory board!!! NYC is the wild west. Just bring your ruler, tape measure, laser measure to open houses with their floorplans and verify the square footage.
"I wouldn't have thought of that in a million years"
Well look at the poll where real estate agents come in
http://matrix.millersamuel.com/?p=5504#comments
Though considering where "member of congress" came in, the poll may be inaccurate to.
Yikes I need to proof read my posts.
I meant "LOL you would think there is some regulatory board!!!
Aboutready
Yeah but I always thought Acris was bulletproof. It always comes up with every alternate. This one was a first.
that's hilarious. you know it's bad when you come in after a banker these days! I'm really new to this whole thing but the education is fast & furious. Last year we got screwed hard by a broker on a rental & this year they're scavenging on each other as we're looking to buy without a buyers broker. Tough going it alone but don't trust anyone.
Lases
Buyer's broker is a personal choice, positives and negatives.
Just do your due diligence.
And remember it's a buyer's market.
Thanks Truthskr. I know. I'm just not sure when the brokers are going to figure that out! :-)
There are good brokers, like every industry, you have the whores, the thieves, the white knights, and the wheeler dealers.
Use streeteasy, acris, and propertyshark. Most importantly, use patience.
Damn! I know someone with that name and he certainly can afford this price.
Wonder if it's the same guy.