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Ayn Rand on the gov't bail outs..

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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=ar2de0RP4ebo June 2 (Bloomberg) -- Imagine a novel of more than a thousand pages, published half a century ago. The author doesn’t have a talk-radio show and has been dead for 27 years. As for the storyline, it is beyond dated: Humorless executives fight with humorless public officials over an industry that is, today, almost irrelevant to the... [more]
Response by stevejhx
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Yawn.

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Response by HH11231
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Yawn, hey yawning is contagious.

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Response by Riversider
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http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1842879,00.html

ut as the largest bailout in government history unfolded in almost dizzying waves over recent days, a very different view prevailed at the Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights, an outpost of free-market, anti-government thinking located just a few blocks from the newly aggressive and highly interventionist Department of Treasury in downtown Washington.

"It's a complete disaster," said Yaron Brook, the executive director of the center. "Its a form of national socialism of the financial markets...This is socialism 101."

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Response by Riversider
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Response by maly
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Who needs Coney Island? All the freaks are here.

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Response by wonderboy
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For FUCKS sake, can you please take this Politics/Economic talk to a POLITICS forum? Your drive by posting of everything Obama/Democrats is so fucking annoying.

NOBODY HERE GIVES A SHIT you fugging loser.

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Response by The_President
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I agree. The political stuff is starting to get annoying. If you want to post anti-Obama stuff, then do it on World Net Daily. You'll have lots of fun on that site talking to the birthers.

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Response by evnyc
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Yawn. And please...
"In short, you would think “Atlas Shrugged” might be long forgotten."

Cam we let Atlas shrugged be forgotten? Along with The Fountainhead? Because frankly, both books sucked like Hoover vacuum cleaners.

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Response by falcogold1
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look...up in the sky...it's a bird, it's a plane...no!...it's wonderboy!

out on a weekend pass or is this another trial run at mainstreaming?

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Response by CB123
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This thread was gone. Why bring it back front just to say it has no place here? Talk about a loser...

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Response by alanhart
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She's the antichrist, so take it to a religious forum. I'm sure nobody at any political forum would be interested in reading it.

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Response by Ubottom
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the most prominent outspoken ayn rander of our time: alan greenspan, mr new paridigm

he laissez faired us to this lovely economic period in which we all live

birthing death paneler--have you read palin's work?--she'd be a good next read for you

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Response by malthus
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I'm sure sales of The Turner Diaries are probably up right now as well.

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Response by Riversider
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What does Gold spike & U.S. dollar falling say about our Economy?

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Response by malthus
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That we are now paying the price of a multi-decade deregulation spree and will be for some time.

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Response by Ubottom
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check the vastly superior state of solvency of the canadian banks and insurance companies

better regulation, better enforcement, way fewer economic troubles

also nationalized health care that the populace is generally quite pleased with

check recissions

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Response by petrfitz
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any one who reads or references Ayn Rand is a complete partisan moron.

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Response by Riversider
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123146363567166677.html

Some years ago when I worked at the libertarian Cato Institute, we used to label any new hire who had not yet read "Atlas Shrugged" a "virgin." Being conversant in Ayn Rand's classic novel about the economic carnage caused by big government run amok was practically a job requirement. If only "Atlas" were required reading for every member of Congress and political appointee in the Obama administration. I'm confident that we'd get out of the current financial mess a lot faster.

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Response by Riversider
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For the uninitiated, the moral of the story is simply this: Politicians invariably respond to crises -- that in most cases they themselves created -- by spawning new government programs, laws and regulations. These, in turn, generate more havoc and poverty, which inspires the politicians to create more programs . . . and the downward spiral repeats itself until the productive sectors of the economy collapse under the collective weight of taxes and other burdens imposed in the name of fairness, equality and do-goodism.

In the book, these relentless wealth redistributionists and their programs are disparaged as "the looters and their laws." Every new act of government futility and stupidity carries with it a benevolent-sounding title. These include the "Anti-Greed Act" to redistribute income (sounds like Charlie Rangel's promises soak-the-rich tax bill) and the "Equalization of Opportunity Act" to prevent people from starting more than one business (to give other people a chance). My personal favorite, the "Anti Dog-Eat-Dog Act," aims to restrict cut-throat competition between firms and thus slow the wave of business bankruptcies. Why didn't Hank Paulson think of that?

These acts and edicts sound farcical, yes, but no more so than the actual events in Washington, circa 2008. We already have been served up the $700 billion "Emergency Economic Stabilization Act" and the "Auto Industry Financing and Restructuring Act." Now that Barack Obama is in town, he will soon sign into law with great urgency the "American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan." This latest Hail Mary pass will increase the federal budget (which has already expanded by $1.5 trillion in eight years under George Bush) by an additional $1 trillion -- in roughly his first 100 days in office.

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Response by Riversider
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged

Atlas Shrugged received largely negative reviews after its 1957 publication,[7] but achieved enduring popularity and consistent sales in the following decades. In the wake of the late 2000s recession sales of Atlas Shrugged have sharply increased, according to The Economist magazine and The New York Times. The Economist reported that the fifty-two-year-old novel ranked #33 among Amazon.com's top-selling books on 13 January, 2009.[8]

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Response by Ubottom
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good points rs---if we'd regulated our banks properly in the first place, none of this grabbing at straws would be going on now

cato=partisan garbage can

soak the poor!!! those damned leeches!!!

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Response by Riversider
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We should've regulated our financial institutions better. We should've listened to Brooklsey born and not Greenspan, Rubin & Summers. Now we'll redistributing money and blowing up our deficit so people get paid to buy houses, refrigerators & cars, at the expense of people who acted responsibly.

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Response by JPCrecom
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I am a Libertarian. Like Ayn Rand's books. Capitalism is great. All that.

Go away and stop posting this stuff here. I don't go to Reason Magazine's blog to read about apartments in New York.

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Response by petrfitz
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this whole problem we are facing now is a dergulation problem - the opposite of what Rand spews. The problem we have now started under Reagan, was amplified by the Republican controlled congress, exascerbated by the dunce Bush. It is a purely conservative Republican caused problem.

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