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question about guarantors

Started by divinefish
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2009
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I'm currently a college student trying to find an apartment with my parents as guarantors, but I just found out that guarantors need to to make 80 times the rent annually, does that mean if I want to get a $2000/month apartment my guarantor needs to make $160k a year? My parents can pay the rent but they don't make that much money... any suggestions? How much upfront would make the landlords' minds at ease?
Response by KeithB
over 16 years ago
Posts: 976
Member since: Aug 2009

Each owner is different, some will accept the guarantor as long as they own a house. Others will ask for 3 months security along with the guarantee if the income/rent ratio is less than they require. Some small owners will be more flexible, like an owner of a co-op with no board approval(not easy to find) or an owner of a brownstone/small building/condo with a unit for rent.

It is doable, but will take some extra research or a good broker that knows what to look for.

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Response by ph41
over 16 years ago
Posts: 3390
Member since: Feb 2008

Another wrikle is that some landlords will not accept out of state guarantors.

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Response by NYCMatt
over 16 years ago
Posts: 7523
Member since: May 2009

"I'm currently a college student trying to find an apartment with my parents as guarantors, but I just found out that guarantors need to to make 80 times the rent annually, does that mean if I want to get a $2000/month apartment my guarantor needs to make $160k a year? My parents can pay the rent but they don't make that much money... any suggestions?"

Yes, that's exactly what it means.

My suggestion is that you look for a cheaper apartment.

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Response by samadams
over 16 years ago
Posts: 592
Member since: Jul 2009

divinefish you might want to look for a cheaper place. I was in the same position as you about 8 years ago and I offered the landlord to pay the entire amount (1 year) up front to keep my folks out of it and they said no. That was with one of the largest landlords in the city and a 770 credit score.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 16 years ago
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i think its fair to say that landlords are a little hungrier than they were 8 yrs. ago. check out a few places and see what the response is before you come to any conclusions.

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Response by samadams
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2009

I know columbia I am just stating that they dont really care about paying up front as other factors come into play. I have heard that some places dont care about the 40 times rent now. Divinefish check out stonehenge buildings. I dont think you need 40 times rent in there buildings

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Response by NYCMatt
over 16 years ago
Posts: 7523
Member since: May 2009

Why does a college student need a $2000/month apartment. Ever hear of roommates?

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Response by Southern
over 16 years ago
Posts: 4
Member since: Mar 2009

Each situation is different. My assumption is that yes, this person has heard of roommates. Thanks for being helpful...

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Response by youngin
over 16 years ago
Posts: 7
Member since: Jul 2008

I am in a similar predicament. The situation: a broker says you can apply for an apartment with a thousand dollar deposit to take it off the market, then tells you just beforehand that the landlord now wants to not accept deposits and would rather take a group of applications and pick from them. How do they pick? If you have strong credit but still need guarantors covering the apartment, do you have a worse chance? Also, isn't the picking through applications discriminatory at that point?

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Response by MAV
over 16 years ago
Posts: 502
Member since: Sep 2007

There is no magic formula that all LLs subscribe to, and in this market standards are much lower

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Response by columbiacounty
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2009

so matt: once again two for two. two answers, both wrong. keeps your average at a stellar 100%. keep up the good work.

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