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The Walt Frazier of real estate . . .

Started by liquidpaper
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Ok, on a slow night before I turn on the Yankees, for one shack burger, or a shake - the winner chooses, who can be first to identify - without cheating - which RE agent wrote the following paragraph - west81, you are specifically not allowed to play, I'll settle my score with you in good time - here we go: "Was there ever a finer example of a classic 7 circa 1912, lit by luminous City prospects... [more]
Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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"provides the ideal setting for congenial and comfortable living"

is that a euphemism for split bedrooms? or his and hers bathrooms?

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Response by nyc10023
over 16 years ago
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Sounds like a Douglas listing.

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Response by nyc10023
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And I was right! He of the Fragonard windows/scene of CPW.

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Response by West81st
over 16 years ago
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Well done, 10023.

I'm not sure the "B' line at 302 West 86th is even a particularly GOOD seven, let alone a great one.

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Response by nyc10023
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He outdid himself with that ad. In person, he's not quite as dramatic. But it could be because I typically go to his "wreck"/estate open houses. Nothing to rhapsodize about.

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Response by alanhart
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I like that his colleague is named "Death".

Bizzaro layout, with the maid's room in the middle of it all, and one of the bedrooms right in the middle of the public rooms. 1930s splitup, or just bad reconfiguration?

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Response by nyc10023
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AH: not that bizarre. Have seen that in a few buildings - esp. long skinny 6+ roomed-apts where only 2 rooms get the street exposure and the rest are all internal/rear-facing.

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Response by NWT
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E.g., 258 RSD, where the southwest apt has that layout, but without a bath up front. Could serve as a library. (An apt in that line was Raymond's apartment in the 1962 "The Manchurian Candidate.")

Also 32 E 64, where each of the two lines had a couple of bedroom suites at the front, later carved out to make a third apartment per floor.

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Response by nyc10023
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Yeah, or pre-pre-war apts (258RSD) often have diff. layouts.

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Response by alanhart
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And I thought the Six I grew up in was weird for having a bathroom shared by visitors and (non-ensuite) the MBR, while the second BR (presumably with sleeping children) had the ensuite bath.

But this layout, at http://www.corcoran.com/property/listing.aspx?Region=NYC&listingid=1873588 , has a second BR facing the street, and its ensuite bath is presumably also for visitors, and it's just a door between it and the foyer, where guests coming and going would make lots of noise. Noise is usually blocked by walls of closets in prewars. Maybe it's meant to be a guest room, but still. The Maid's and MBR both face back, although maybe the other exposure of the MBR is airier than the exposure that the Maid's and MBR share.

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Response by nyc10023
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There's another building on 86th with the same (but mirror image) layout. I don't think people were too concerned with having ensuites back in the day. I saw a 7 at 161W74 with 2 Jack-and-Jill baths between 3 brs.

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Response by alanhart
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I loathe Jack & Jills -- my head explodes even trying to contemplate what you're describing. I hope it has something to do with two maid's rooms flanking a nursery, or the other way around, or something.

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Response by West81st
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My assumption has always been that DD doesn't write his own copy. Like any boss, though, he's responsible for the product. And the product can be pretty funny.

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Response by nyc10023
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Response by West81st
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Thanks, 10023. Ironic quote from that article:

"Douglas thinks brokers sometimes succumb to the temptation to overpromise and underdeliver."

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Response by nyc10023
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DD is a successful broker who doesn't rile me. When he has OHs, he's pretty low-key. Stands back, answers question, not a hard sell kinda guy. Usually has a printout of closed comps, comps on market.

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Response by West81st
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nyc10023: I totally agree. That's why I figured the florid prose was the work of a subordinate.

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Response by NWT
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Met him once years ago at an Ansonia OH, and agree with you both. Maybe the prose is his bit of fun amidst all the PITA, with some of the required showmanship thrown in. Kind of like Brian Lewis having a ball with his videos, for which he got dragged through the coals here.

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Response by reddog2669
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Post and toast in NYC in your exquisite pad in NYC. If you are a neophyte buyer, an $8,000 credit will provide an auspicious beginning to your new lifestyle! I love Clyde.

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Response by lizyank
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Hmmm could there be a market for re advertising copy that doesn't sound like the cover of an absoultely terrible romance novel? A freelance specialty service that spoke grown up to grown ups? Thoughts...

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Response by NWT
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Remember the article about the woman in NJ who writes broker bios? IIRC she said she drew the line at ad copy. Her gorge rose, or something.

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Response by NWT
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Someone who wouldn't say "Live-in super!" as if any building didn't have one. I do see, though, how they fall into Eve Harringon mode: "I had to say something, be somebody, make them like me."

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Response by liquidpaper
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Was crazed at work all day today & never got onto streeteasy until now . . . 10023 iou a shake or a burger. well done. as for DD & whether he's good or bad or whatever I certanly think he writes his own ads - have you ever read his bio on corcoran website?

http://www.corcoran.com/agents/profile.aspx?userid=DD&region=NYC

Now mind you, I think he wrote that himself but . . .

Next time I read one of those (cover your eyes kids) douchebag arguments on this board about who's smarter 'cause they went to which school, I'll link back to this thread and that curriculum vitae . . . he's the very epitome of a princeton and harvard man all the way thru as far as I can tell . . .

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Response by nyc10023
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I had it with the second sentence. The first "Was there ever ...?" - I've seen that before & the second "baronial" - he says that for every 7+ prewar apt. Yep, good old DD at work.

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Response by w67thstreet
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Lp. But I'm much more impressed with the guy who learned English while sweeping floors and now owns $20 mm in bank and sending his kids to harvard and Princeton. That's just me, sometimes I wish I never did the ivy thing, maybe I'd have more street creds with the homies.

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Response by liquidpaper
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Trust me 67th - I am completely in agreement. I think for most people Ivy educations are a waste of money & the kids would be as well off at state schools but for the odious "connections" they make there that perpetrate the worst of the class system that still exists in the US. For the vast majority, I believe "Ivy" is an empty shell that then people hide behind for their professional careers.

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