(BN) Wall Street Bonus Culture Ready to Rest in Peace: David Pauly
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Wall Street Bonus Culture Ready to Rest in Peace: David Pauly 2009-12-14 02:00:00.0 GMT Commentary by David Pauly Dec. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Condolences to Wall Street’s finest. The huge cash bonuses they have longed for and savored are history. Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the profit king of the securities business, has made sure of that. Goldman last week said its 30 top executives will get their... [more]
Wall Street Bonus Culture Ready to Rest in Peace: David Pauly 2009-12-14 02:00:00.0 GMT Commentary by David Pauly Dec. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Condolences to Wall Street’s finest. The huge cash bonuses they have longed for and savored are history. Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the profit king of the securities business, has made sure of that. Goldman last week said its 30 top executives will get their traditional year-end bonuses in stock instead of cash -- and the shares have serious restrictions. Recipients won’t be able to sell the stock for five years, though it vests in three. And they might lose the shares if Goldman determines later that the executives earned them by taking heedless risks. Goldman shareholders now will also be allowed to vote on the company’s pay, though their yes or no won’t be binding on management. Bonuses per se aren’t dead. Goldman and rivals Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase & Co. will dish out $29.7 billion in 2009 bonuses, analysts estimate. Some of that should be in cash, and the stock handed out will, with luck, be worth a nice sum years from now. But the time-honored bonus culture featuring large cash payments needed to end. Even a Goldman Sachs director admitted that the day before the firm’s new bonus arrangement was announced. William George, who is also a professor at Harvard Business School, said the practice “has got to move on,” and that compensation needs to be closely tied to long-term performance. Reducing Risk Instead of 60 percent of investment firm pay coming from year-end handouts, more will be in salary. And there may be less of that too, because of the pressure on banks from the government and myriad critics to become sounder institutions by raising capital and taking fewer risks. That will reduce profit and the ability to pay. The bonus era seemed over a year ago, when Wall Street eliminated the payouts after those horrendous losses on mortgage-related securities. Then this year, Goldman began earmarking a percentage of its 2009 profit, which has been large, for bonuses. For the first nine months of this year, the amount was $16.7 billion. There were outcries from Washington to Walla Walla from folks who thought Goldman, as a recipient of government bailout money, should have been more circumspect. No Dice The firm tried to justify the resurrection of bonuses by claiming repeatedly that it hadn’t needed a rescue. That was nonsense, in light of the facts. Goldman got a $10 billion investment from the government under the Troubled Asset Relief Program, which it has repaid, and has sold debt guaranteed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Perhaps more important, it also raised about $16 billion by selling preferred and common shares. Bonus-happy securities firms are under the gun elsewhere. The U.K. last week said that banks there must pay a one-time tax of 50 percent on discretionary bonuses exceeding 25,000 pounds ($40,500). Nicolas Sarkozy, the president of France, said he too would tax bonuses this year. French officials said the levy would be on payments of more than 27,000 euros ($39,400). Funny thing is, banks are hurrying to pay back government investments to escape curbs on their pay imposed by politicians. Bank of America Corp. sold $19.3 billion of new securities to help repay $45 billion to the U.S. The bank diluted its per-share earnings base, only to find the day of huge bonuses gone. [less]
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Uhhhhh...... Ohhhhhh..... Mmmmmm,,,,,, oh god oh god,,,,,,, uggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!
Can I get a tissue?
Dream on. That commentary is bs. For the vast majority of employees at the big Wall Street firms the party is still on and 2009 will be their best bonus year ever. Nothing has changed - due largely to the $350,000,000 in lobbying against any real reform.
really? i wonder how the guys at RBS feel this year ?
Exactly when did Wall Street's excessive bonus culture become readily associated with...the Royal Bank of Scotland?
Citigroup Reaches Deal to Repay U.S. Bailout Funds:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/business/economy/15bank.html?hp
"Indeed, if the government approves Citigroup’s repayment of taxpayer funds, it would free it from pay restrictions for banks that received multiple bailouts. And with most of the nation’s biggest lenders out of the bailout program, the president may soon lose some of his leverage over the banks."
Key sentence:
"Goldman shareholders now will also be allowed to vote on the company’s pay, though their yes or no
won’t be binding on management."
When firms are making money and people are working this will not be an issue anymore. When people are no longer up in arms (coming soon/short attention apans) the politicians won't give a crap about it either.
what it means to real estate in ny..... since the bonus restriction is for 3 or 5 years and more of the bonus will be paid in stock, don't expect a uptick this spring in people walking around with money to stuff into real estate. in 3 to 5 years, maybe, but now this spring.
At financial firms that are making record profits this year (including mine) and bonuses will only follow. There are a lot of people below top 30 that will get record bonuses in cash.
> At financial firms that are making record profits this year (including mine) and bonuses will only follow.
A guy said that about a year and half ago on this board. He worked for Lehman.
"When firms are making money and people are working this will not be an issue anymore. When people are no longer up in arms (coming soon/short attention apans) the politicians won't give a crap about it either."
Except that the shareholders keep what isn't paid in compensation. If shareholders can keep more themselves with such a vote, expect further pressures on compensation.
noone is saying that there will not be more bonuses and possibly higher ones. the reality is that most bonuses will have a larger % of restricted stock attached to them.
we're not talking about people who make $100K and get $20-40K bonus, they will not be able to afford current real estate prices no matter what. the traders, bankers, etc will see less cash with a larger bonus.