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Moody's: Jumbo-MBS under Review for Downgrades

Started by pitchfork
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2009
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We haven't seen nothing yet. Credit crunch will pop this asset bubble. Values to decline 9% more. http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/12/moodys-jumbo-mbs-under-review-for.html
Response by The_President
about 16 years ago
Posts: 2412
Member since: Jun 2009

where was Moody's back in 2005? Why didn;'t they downgrade any subprime mortages back then?

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Response by aboutready
about 16 years ago
Posts: 16354
Member since: Oct 2007

moody's was busy determining that prices in alpine were too high.

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Response by hfscomm1
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2009

Oh, very good, aboutready contributing nothing but making fun of others.

But when she makes fun of others and offers no substance, it's ok.

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Response by Riversider
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009

Moodys is merely opining what the industry already knows. These pools have been deteriorating for some time.

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Response by inonada
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2008

I believe Moody's criteria for determining is as follows. They look at the market price of a bond. If it is yielding what it's supposed to, then all is fine. If it drops to 70 cents on the dollar, they figure the market must know something so they set themselves up to get an alert and issue a "review for downgrade". If the price is still in the toilet after a couple of weeks, they downgrade figuring the market still knows what it new. If the price is lower, they declare it in immediate danger of default figuring the market must really know something.

Now if there was only a way to make money from predicting Moody's downgrades...

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Response by Riversider
about 16 years ago
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Ratings are irrelevant. If the bond has deteriorated the price is already down. Only matters for things like risk based capital or whether a firm's guidelines allow it to hold a bond of a certain rating.

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