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Started by aboutready
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i read two wonderful books over the last long weekend. one was by leggs mcneill, i think it is titled "please kill me". it is an oral history collection of the lou reed/glam rock/punk rock revolution in NYC. if you have a child, it will make you very happy you didn't live here. but i've met many who have and did, and did fine. absolutely coincidentally one of the other books the husband got me for christmas is from the same time period (and has some references to the same clubs, etc). and this is a brilliant evocation of what NYC was in the '70s. i came to the city in the '80s and we definitely had similarly bad times in the late '80s. but this is just an amazing book. Let the Great World Spin, by Colum McCann.
Response by Truth
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I met Leggs in 1976. He started "Punk Magazine" with John Holmstrom. Love Leggs, a good guy!!!

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Response by alanhart
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Also try Teenage Hipster in the Modern World, by Mark Jacobson

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Response by Truth
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Alan: Great suggestion. Mark Jacobson is a fine writer.

P.S. I know where to get crabmeat -- but, what do you use for the breading? It's your secret recipe. Break loose with it!

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Response by lizyank
almost 16 years ago
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Thanks AR and AH Barnes and Noble is the last store I haven't learned to avoid (excepting of course Billy's Bakery but that's not a store its a Dick Cheney fantasy torture chamber) and those sound like books right up my alley. (I also knew Leggs when I was a record publicist in the late 70s).

Right now I'm also saving my pennies because two books are coming out this spring that are dedicated to analysis and implications of "The Wire" IMHO the greatest TV show ever, or at least a close second to "Crusader Rabbit".

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Response by glamma
almost 16 years ago
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hi AR, thanks for the suggestions. have you read "it was gonna be like paris?" been trying to get a copy.. also just finishing "i slept with joey ramone" and it is a wonderful book all around, co-authored by legs, highly recommend.

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Response by technologic
almost 16 years ago
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aboutready - it seems like we have similar tastes in books. i will def check those out! i am also hoping to check out patti smiths new book. if you are looking for more in that genre, there is a great photo book called Life on the Lower East Side with pics from post-war in b/w and little stories to go with the pictures, and another called Downtown New York which is absolutely awesome, stories/pictures about the whole art/music scene of the 80s.

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Response by aboutready
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thanks for all of the suggestions. very much appreciated. liz, after the husband has finished them i'll pass them along.

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Response by alanhart
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Public Service Announcement:

Don't forget that books are unaesthetic clutter, eyesores, dust generators, and that the best bookstore in NY remains
http://catalog.nypl.org/iii/encore/record/C|Rb17743166|STeenage+Hipster+in+the+Modern+World|P0%2C1|Orightresult?lang=eng&suite=pearl

... with free shipping to the nearest franchise upon online request

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Response by alanhart
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Truth, have you tried crushed Froot Loops for the breading? (It's New American Comfort Food.)

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Response by Truth
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Alan: Really? How do you smoosh them down and get it to stick?
And, can I bake them in my toaster oven? I don't want to spoil my perfect record of never having turned on my stove/oven.

tech.: I was just going to recommend Patti Smith's new book. I only met her once, and we sat next to each other at the private concert celebration for Ahmet Ertegun's memorial at the Rose Room. A wonderful companion, for close to 5 hours. Very down to earth.

Liz: Do we know each other? Did you ever work at Atlantic? The music biz was so exciting, with great venues still in existance in the city. R.I.P.: Max's Kansas City ,Lone Star, Bottom Line, Academy,CBGB, and all of those great parties at Xenon and Studio 54.

Legs was such fun. Have not seen him in a while. Still good friends with Ratso Sloman, another great writer.

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Response by alanhart
almost 16 years ago
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It's more of an Easy Bake Oven kind of thing, but it might be even better to go with a Disney Princess Cool Bake Magic Oven.

An alternative, if you're too lazy to crush Froot Loops, is http://www.theheartofnewengland.com/food-CrabCakes.html ... good at the very least for the severely stern scolding. Of course, Marylanders will vociferously disagree with the seasoning, and I'm not so sure they'd be wrong.

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Response by truthskr10
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That's an old recipe, you use a bread pin to crush them. It's best to weed out the purple loops though as they create a funky color after baking.

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Response by lizyank
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I actually worked at Island records when it was a "cult" label although Bob Marley (very much alive) was widely known and Robert Palmer was just breaking mainstream (before he tripped on his nose). Some of the journalists I gave a break to when they were breaking in are now BIG time rock publicists but that was a long, long time and another career ago. I definitely set foot and overdrank (etc) in every one of the venues you listed (plus a few I'm sure I don't remember, not because I've aged but because of the amount of intoxicants ingested). Studio 54, New Years Eve 1978, Grace Jones, an Island artist, was the star performer and I really had a full night s work (fortunately, or not, aided by "alertness enhancement"). But I will never forget leaving at 5:30 am when its about 15 degrees outside and seeing this enormous crowd standing there just waiting to "see celebrities". That was my personal "Day of the Locust" moment and was a big part of why I later ended up moving to Montana for a couple of years to ride cowboys.

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Response by Truth
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I hear you, Liz. Sometimes it's like glorified babysitting for overindulged rock stars. My clients, these days, are also my friends.

Post an e-mail of your preference, and I will contact you. If you ever want to come up to Woodstock, please be my guest at The Ramble.

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Response by Truth
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Thanks Alan and truthskr. I'm not a joy in the kitchen. But I may be able to make those crabcakes happen.

Saw Paula Dean, outside her hotel, last month. Was on my way to an event, but slowed down to lean out the car window: "Hey, Paula!". She turned and said: "Well, hey there, honey!". I said: "MORE BUTTER!!!". She laughed, and the car moved on. Her cooking is a heart attack waiting to happen, but I enjoy her show.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 16 years ago
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I am a brand new convert to kindle - on
vacay now and read 2 Wharton bks - downloaded
her entire oeuvre for a modest sum.

I am loving Wharton - the arch and geography
of manhattan still carries echoes of the gilded age.

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Response by ph41
almost 16 years ago
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For one of the best recent books that captures modern (post 9/11) New York - Netherland. Wonderful writing.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 16 years ago
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I liked this thread, so bump.

1) I think Lizyank should write her memoirs, with input from Truth and AH.
2) The Wire is pretty damned good. I never watched much of it, but my partner watched about 3-4 hours of it
at the hospital, while I was in labor.
3) What's this Ramble business?

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Response by lizyank
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Thank you 10023,but aside from the fact that I need to focus 150% on finding paid employment ASAP< somehow I can't imagine the world would want to read the memoirs of that most reviled of human life forms an "old maid with cats". I'd be way too afraid that a recounting of the my tales of the city would end up casting me as the "sex,drugs and rock and roll" version of the pitcher in Springsteen's "Glory Days".

Maybe someday. Tell your partner to go back to The Wire, it only gets better--you should watch as well although I wouldn't recommend it for the kids.

Truth, I really hope I get to meet you at the March 3 event...maybe we will recognize each other from back in the day. Meanwhile, please feel free to contact me at lizyank@aol.com.

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Response by evnyc
almost 16 years ago
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Alan, god love you, NYPL is the bestest!

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Response by hfscomm1
almost 16 years ago
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how would bestest be translated aboutready style?

bestf'nest
?

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Response by Truth
almost 16 years ago
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NYC10023: It's a weekly (when he's not out on Tour) concert at Levon Helm's property, in Woodstock. www.Levonhelm.com.

Have already been asked to write my memoirs, by several publishers. Am currently writing my friend Russell Schlagbaum's memoirs, with him. Read: "Roadwork", by our friend, Tom Wright.
Then watch the documentary: "The Passing Show: The Life and Music of Ronnie Lane". All, my dear friends, and clients.

Liz: Will be in touch, soon.

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Response by nyc10023
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See, I told my partner there was a point to posting on SE. He thinks it's all teenage boys posting in their underpants.

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Response by aboutready
almost 16 years ago
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so, let's do it. and truth, if you would like to contact me, and i hope you would, liz would be a great path (so to speak).

fun.

i was rereading the W&R thread and i was so sad. we had sooo much fun before the serial troll showed up. i realized it had made me kind of freeze up on the humor, but no more. the troll is here to stay. so be it. and so am i.

drdrd, come back.

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Response by KeithB
almost 16 years ago
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Wow although I am the "enemy" (lol) we have shared some of the past, though I started a little later. I moved to New York in 81, lived on Norfolk and Houston and was part of the then Punk scene. Met and new many of the people mentioned above and played in a few bands(Agnostic Front then started Cause For Alarm). I hung out at all those places(and played at all of them as well)...small world our little Island. Then married(a fellow punk who grew up in Chelsea) and came from a "film/theater" home; almost as exciting as the NYC punk scene.

So it sort of makes sense I wound up in RE...

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Response by Truth
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Aboutready: Let's! I'm going over to that other string; where I will reveal my true identity.

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