cpi shows inflation over 9% using 1980 methodology
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funny how everyone bought into the new method. http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
"Meanwhile, the flat screen 1080p 42 inch TV I bought for my bedroom this summer for $899 is priced at $267 now at PC Richards."
This is a joke right?
I think the truth will be that the cost of manufacturing the old 26 inch RCA XL100 was higher than that of an LED FLAT-PANEL
http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=OBR&date=20110216&id=12828970
Investors viewed the figures somewhat warily and bond prices slipped. Economists, however, said it was too soon to panic about inflation with stubbornly high unemployment keeping labor costs subdued.
"The question is whether we are seeing a limited pass-through of commodity price hikes or the beginnings of an inflationary spiral," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight in Lexington, Massachusetts.
"Wages will be the thing to watch -- there won't be an inflationary spiral unless wage inflation picks up."
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"Yes, we are seeing input prices go up, companies are seeing those, but they are having a hard time passing them on. There is still a lot of slack in the economy, whether it's high unemployment or high office vacancies," said John Canally, an economist at LPL Financial in Boston.
"The economy is 80 percent services. Economy-wide, raw materials or commodity prices only account for something like 5 percent of input costs and labor is 70 percent."
Companies such as Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, Kraft and Procter & Gamble are raising prices of some goods to offset the high energy and commodity costs. But economists are skeptical that most price increases by producers will stick.
Your article states:
Economists, however, said it was too soon to panic about inflation with stubbornly high unemployment keeping labor costs subdued.
Yesterday you stated:
economists have been wrong about almost everything
so they have. but i was actually thinking more along the lines of the academics who spew theories like the efficient market, not those who follow simple supply and demand concepts.
but it's been rather indisputable that you've been wrong, and basic economic theory doesn't currently support your noxious and incessant posting of inflationista rants. the 'ho has been posting graphs of rising commodity prices for two years and doesn't even see any irony in it. is it possible that inflation will rear its ugly head sometime in the future, of course. but your arguments for it two years ago were not compelling, and your arguments for it now are not as well.
Bottom line is Housing is close to 42% of CPI-U. And as we know the cost of shelter based on rental equivalent is down. The index has too much allocted to housing and for those that own and pay real estate taxes or common charges those costs are up. Then you add to that an index that assumes we switch to eating Porgies instead of Salmon and you realize that inflation is just a lot higher than what the statistics show.
16 months ago, riversider:
"inflation will show up in the form of higher rates, higher taxes, higher health care costs, higher food, higher energy, higher commodoties, etc..the stuff that squeezes corporate margins, and pinches consumers wallets. my 0.02 anyway that is now worth $0.01 due to crazy inflation"
is the 0.02 that became 0.01 "due to crazy inflation" that you experienced then now worth 0.005?
Commodites are up. Real Estate Taxes are up. Health care costs are up. Food costs are up, Oil is up, Natural Gas and elecricity are down.
kraft announced poor margins due to rising commodity costs. So far my prediction looks pretty darn good!
i guess it depends on how you look at it. in some parts of the country real estate taxes are down, and they'll continue to go down in most bubble markets. food costs have actually been down since your last bout of whining, although shortages make that look like a plus in your column going forward, oil went way down since your last bout of whining, and where it will land now is uncertain, many commodities have had elevated costs for the last couple of years. health care i'll give you, but that's not due to input costs. poor margins compared to what? what they'd like their profits to be? so maybe they'll just have to have less profit on their revenues next year, endlessly escalating profits are nowhere guaranteed.
"Companies such as Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, Kraft and Procter & Gamble are raising prices of some goods to offset the high energy and commodity costs. But economists are skeptical that most price increases by producers will stick."
again, how much is your 2 cents worth? i'd say not too much.
do you understand the definition of inflation?
ar: cider understands the definition of inflation. You , on the other hand, have no clue.If you don't want to look too stupid when looking back at those lines in the (near) future, i suggest you let it go.
"do you understand the definition of inflation?"
One fact, it has nothing to do with income.
BTW nothing to do with this thread or maybe everything to do with it, has anyone encountered the new penny yet. It's got be half the weight of an original.
"ar: cider understands the definition of inflation. You , on the other hand, have no clue.If you don't want to look too stupid when looking back at those lines in the (near) future, i suggest you let it go."
+1
nicer, no. cost of living increases in and of themselves are not inflation.
truth, maybe that's the answer.
http://macroblog.typepad.com/macroblog/2011/02/inflation-confusion.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2FRUQt+%28macroblog%29
"In the most recent FOMC statement, following the January meeting, the committee acknowledged the rise of commodity prices, but stated that ‘measures of underlying inflation have been trending downward.'
"Yet inflation anxiety is rising. There seems to be a disconnect between what the Fed is saying and what people are experiencing when they fill up their gas tanks or read about rising food prices around the world.… Are the Fed and the public on different planets?
"Certainly not. But I do think in the swirl of official statements and public discourse we may be talking about different things. To my way of thinking, the term ‘inflation' is misused in describing rising prices in narrow expenditure categories (for example, food inflation). Nonetheless, recent price news has encroached on the public consciousness with the effect that any price rise of an important consumption item is often taken as signaling inflation."
A jump in energy prices contributed to the producer price growth, with energy prices rising by 1.8 percent in January after surging up by 2.8 percent in December. The increase was largely due to a 6.9 percent advance in gasoline prices.
Food prices edged up by a more modest 0.3 percent in January following a 0.8 percent increase in the previous month. Prices for fresh and dry vegetables surged up by 13.7 percent, contributing to the increase in food prices.
Compared to the same month a year ago, total producer prices increased by 3.6 percent in January compared to a 4.0 annual rate of growth in December.
"Business input costs are rising and there have been anecdotal reports of large firms raising prices this year," said Jennifer Lee, senior economist with BMO Capital Markets.
http://www.rttnews.com/Content/TopStories.aspx?Node=B1&Id=1554377
I think the answer is that if you live in j-51 rent controlled housing, don't eat fish or fresh vegetables and eat scrapple when pork chops go up in price, then there's no inflation.
Today's announcement really cements why my perception of Food prices is so much higher than everyone elses. My basket of goods is different. Consumption in my household is largely based on Fruits, Vegetables. Probably if someone is eating less fresh produce more frozen products or packaged goods those prices are rising more slowly.
I bought organic strawberries today for $4.99 at whole foods. tj's has a five pound bag of grapefruit for $4.59. prices for whole wheat pasta haven't budged. maybe you should be shopping at places where prices are more tied to national ones. fairway and citarellas, particularly, cater to a clientele that will generally just pay up.
so if you live in an rsb condo with an expiring tax abatement and aren't smart enough to shop around for your cream cheese you might be feeling the pinch.
Actually, I've always thought it's the Whole Foods clientele that generally just pay up, and up, and up.
Good for you! Finally some healthy food
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/2064/2
then you don't shop there, ph41. price to quality ratio is amazing, private brand is cheap, and prices fluctuate much less, except for produce, where whole foods can sometimes be one of the best deals in town but not always.
Agree. Whole Foods is actually cheaper than most. Don't tell anyone.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/10/business/media/10adco.html
rs, you don't have a clue what's in my shopping cart. finally, hah.
btw, what is the nutritional contribution of cream cheese?
Whole Foods is often pricey. You can save some money by going to Trader Joe's but not every item is top quality. Some produce while seemingly cheap tastes awful(so no savings if you can't eat it). Lots of stores buy produce and fish from China, but the standards are dubious. Bottom Line: Yes it's possible to bargain hunt, but prices are rising, and if you lead a healthy life-style eating Alaskan Salmon, Fresh Fruits & Vegetables , Olive Oil, and drink coffee and orange juice prices are up big time.
you eat salmon every day? how dull, and I love salmon. maybe you should consider occasionally having some pei mussels, which, although extraordinarily cheap, are easy to prepare and full of health benefits. not spam at all.
Between 1-4 times a month when in season, Sockeye Salmon can't be beat. Other times it's arctic char, Yellow Fin Tuna, Pompano, Red Snapper, Branzino or Opah. And all these fish are up consistently year over year.
why don't u guys take a room together?
I never cook, never grocery shop and never really look at the restaurant bill.yea yea i know.
but what i know is monetary inflation is out of control. beware the consequences.
why don't you fess up about who you really are?
Monetary policy is out of control. And before you blame Wall Street for the credit crisis(and there is blame there), look at the expansionary money supply as a PRIME CAUSE of the U.S. housing crisis and the same occurring in Ireland, U.k., Spain, and elsewhere.
is there any content here?
nope.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/investing/inflation-66-percent-higher-than-fed-reports/19844638/
Alternative measures for inflation show a far more alarming picture of price increases than the official data suggest. One of the more intriguing approaches is The Billion Prices Project at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, which collects daily price changes on about 5 million items sold by approximately 300 online retailers in more than 70 countries.
For U.S. price data, MIT tracks 550,000 products from 53 retailers. By this measure, annual inflation is currently running at a rate of 2.5% -- or 66% greater than the official CPI figure. See the chart above.
Core inflation may have run at just 0.7% in 2010, as Bernanke says, which is the lowest reading on record gong back to 1960. Even if you add back in those pesky food and energy prices, the number rises to 1.2% -- still no big deal. But by the Billion Prices Project's reading, inflation in 2010 more than doubled to 2.5%. "The Billion Prices Project @ MIT is finding plenty of evidence that consumer prices are rising faster than the official price data," Yardeni notes.
in more than 70 countries. would that possibly include china, india and brazil?
sorry, my bad. read too quickly.
rs, just curious. is it the inflation that's bothering you, or the fact that they haven't raised interest rates so you can make more money on your savings? frankly, inflation and higher rates would be great for this household. very little of our income is spent on necessities, a higher rate of return on investments would be nice. but that's not what i'm hoping for.
Inflation??
http://finviz.com/futures_performance.ashx?v=16
This is just a relentless march upwards for stocks, food and industrial materials.
Even Pigs can fly...
Lean HOGS at all TIME HIGHS TODAY!!!
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=LH&p=w1
And what about Cotton...
UP ANOTHER 7.5% TODAY! 250% above historical means....
http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CT&p=w1
aboutready,
I am embarrassed for you.
why, you don't understand the wage element of inflation either?
And if prices go up and wages don't keep up, you wind up with more poverty.
Keep in mind that the American solution to rising prices these past few decades has been first to adopt the two wage earner model and then when that idea ran dry to tap into mortgage and credit card debt to support an otherwise unobtainable lifestyle.
The wage argument is brilliant, our leaders have convinced us that if we experience no growth in real wages then that is a good thing.
"The wage argument is brilliant, our leaders have convinced us that if we experience no growth in real wages then that is a good thing."
that is perhaps the most simplistic thing you've ever written. and untrue. although most people have indeed had no growth in real wages in over a decade i'm fairly certain few if any view it as a positive thing.
http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2011/02/money_and_reser.html
http://macroblog.typepad.com/macroblog/2011/02/the-inflation-disconnect.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2FRUQt+%28macroblog%29
"Every Federal Reserve Bank has its own procedures for bringing anecdotal and real-time color and nuance to the data. But we are all doing it one way or another. The picture of a Federal Reserve as disconnected from the on-the-ground realities is simply false.
And what have we been hearing? Yes, certainly highly visible prices and costs have been rising. Yes, some businesses have been able to pass these costs through to customers. Yes, there is some concern about whether price pressures might become more widespread.
But have they yet? Does it seem, as people contemplate market circumstances and their own pricing plans, that widespread price increases are imminent, or even highly probable? The consistent answer we have been getting is no."
Fast-rising fur prices are threatening to take the skin off upscale fashion designers.
While soaring cotton prices sap profits across the clothing industry, luxury labels say a dramatic run-up in the price of mink and other fine furs has likewise forced them to scramble to maintain their margins as demand for furry fashions surges worldwide.
"People are ordering their fur earlier in the season than ever because they're afraid of what they'll have to pay if they wait until the following week," said Khajak Keledjian, CEO of Intermix, the trendy New York-based fashion boutique.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/designers_get_pelted_by_rising_fur_dsQV81O0F5R6reDqBhmjvO#ixzz1EDKTEWwa
The globalization of the Economy is a huge factor in future U.S. inflation. While in past years we benefited from lower prices achieved by importing goods from China as opposed to buying the locally made version, that game is over now that Chinese laborers are getting higher wages. And in the case of Bordeaux Wine, Furs, Food,etc the American Consumer is competing with buyers from other parts of the world, so we're only part of the demand picture. In the case of Bordeaux wine, its no longer being shipped here in the same volumes with key allocations now going straight to China.
well, the incomes of the rich ARE increasing so those costs can likely be passed along. maybe it's one of the prices monitored by MIT.
damned wives of oligarchs pushing up the prices of mink.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Prices are still going up on food and gas
The U.S. Consumer Price Index, a key measure of inflation, increased 1.6% over the past 12 months ending in January, up from 1.5% in December, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said.
Over the past 12 months, the food index has risen 1.8%, its fastest pace since 2009.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/17/news/economy/cpi_inflation/
I am fucking sick and tired of Riversiders picking and choosing what prices he wants to discuss. Its intellectually bankrupt, and just boardering on psychosis at this poiint. From today's NYT:
"U.S. Consumer Prices Held in Check in January...
...The Labor Department said its Consumer Price Index was up a seasonally adjusted 0.4 percent in January, and showed a 1.6 percent rise over the previous 12 months..."
From:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/business/economy/18econ.html?_r=1&hp
ONE POINT FUCKING SIX PERCENT, including...INCLUDING Food & Energy.
From the WSJ:
"...The seasonally adjusted consumer price index last month increased by 0.4% from December, the Labor Department said Thursday. Over the last 12 months, prices were up 1.6% before seasonal adjustments...."
ONE POINT FUCKING SIX PERCENT, including...INCLUDING Food & Energy.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704657704576150000796506690.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection
You wanna know the real beauty of it, jason? Despite screaming bloody inflation, he's been putting his money into bonds and paying down his mortgage. Besides putting on a trade on the wrong side, he doesn't seem to understand the deflationary effect of his actions. I gotta wonder how many such people there are out there -- screaming inflation on one side and collectively taking deflationary actions on the other.
Another day...
Another lock limit up in a lot of commodities.
http://www.finviz.com/futures_performance.ashx
"Another day...
Another lock limit up in a lot of commodities."
Another head in the sand-er. Commidities make up less than 10% of CPI.
cream cheese me again Riversider... let it drool off the side of my mouth...
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/16/2
Jason10006, have you considered the possiblity that the poster named Riversider is actually an IBM programmed computer? OTOH, AR seems to have a variety of human emotions. Not to say that the appearance of emotions cannot be programmed. vbg
On a more serious note, SILVER is breaking out.
computers are smarter than riversider.
so are snails.
For the record, my Lira quote above was only to demonstrate that IF there is inflation, that the "inflation" would not impact all asset classes the same way. (I've read so often on these boards that some posters see housing as a hedge against inflation; I thought that may have been the point being made as I tend to skim these posts these days more and more when I nose around this site instead of reading all of them for content)
Now if the question is "are we experiencing inflation or deflation," that is trickier. The best read I have seen on this is the following post by Charles Hugh Smith "Of Two Minds"
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogfeb11/how-to-get-inflation-2-11.html
He makes a distinction between "organic inflation" and "speculative inflation" which I think addresses some root differences being discussed on this thread. I recommend reading the whole post in its entirety, but here is a teaser:
"Here is where we are in a nutshell. The general populace has seen its income decline as the Fed's ZIRP policy has channeled their interest income directly into the banks, and as their wages stagnate.
Yet thanks to the speculative inflation engineered by the Fed, prices are rising. In an organic inflation, wages and interest income would both be rising along with prices. So the direct result of the Fed's policies is higher costs and the transfer of national income to the banks.
The average household has seen its income and its asset base (housing) stagnate or decline. Meanwhile, the equities market, which directly "increases real wealth" in only the top 10%, has risen over 80% from the Q1 2009 low.
If the bottom 80% are seeing income and assets stagnate or decline, how can you possibly get organic inflation? Answer: you can't. And speculative inflation only benefits the top financial players, not the general populace."
For these fucking dummies who don't realize that rent, haircuts, and the cost a restaraunt pay for waiters and busboys are NOT part of the price of copper.
"....Overall prices were up 1.6% in January from a year earlier, the government said Tuesday, the biggest increase in eight months. Rising prices for highly visible items from gasoline to Starbucks coffee are feeding popular fears that inflation is back. But in many other businesses, from barber shops to Sunday's Daytona 500 Nascar race, prices haven't risen much at all, and in some cases even have dropped.
The conflicting forces: Soaring commodities costs world-wide are pushing up prices for many goods, while a slowly recuperating U.S. economy, soft housing market and a persistently high unemployment rate are holding down prices for U.S. services.
Goods prices were up 2.2% from a year earlier, paced by jumps in food and energy prices, according to the Labor Department's January consumer-price index, and are rising faster than they did before the recession. But services prices were up only 1.2% from a year earlier, far below the 3.4% inflation rate registered for services between 2000 and 2008...."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312904576146500586838290.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories
".....U.S. households spent $7 trillion on services last year, accounting for 67% of total consumer spending. Because the services sector is so immense, the U.S. economy is less exposed to the cost pressures imposed by global trade than many other countries...."
"....The cost of a haircut was only 0.6% higher in January than a year earlier, a sharp slowdown from the 2.9% annual increase between 2000 and 2008....
...Gardening and lawn-care prices fell 0.8% in 2010...
...Prices for tax-preparation services in January were up 0.8% from a year earlier...
...When the economy was still humming in 2007, the cheapest ticket for the Daytona 500 was $95. On Sunday, the cheapest will be $55.
International Speedway Corp., which owns the Daytona racetrack and 12 other facilities, has been dropping prices to lure back consumers. When the economy was stronger, it was filling nearly 95% of its seats. Today, its seats are 70% to 80% filled. The company's average ticket price fell 6.3% last year, and the price is likely to stay mostly unchanged this year, says Chief Financial Officer Daniel Houser..."
...
"...Dental services prices were up 2.7% in 2010, the smallest annual increase since 1962, according to the Labor Department...
...Nationwide, the cost of a funeral was 2.1% higher in January than a year earlier, far below the 4.3% annual pace at which prices rose between 2000 and 2008...."
The pace of consumer price increases in the U.S. is quickening after being dormant for months. But a tug of war between the prices of goods and the prices of services, playing out beneath the surface, could keep inflation from becoming the worry it is in China, Europe and many emerging markets.
Overall prices were up 1.6% in January from a year earlier, the government said Tuesday, the biggest increase in eight months. Rising prices for highly visible items from gasoline to Starbucks coffee are feeding popular fears that inflation is back. But in many other businesses, from barber shops to Sunday's Daytona 500 Nascar race, prices haven't risen much at all, and in some cases even have dropped
The conflicting forces: Soaring commodities costs world-wide are pushing up prices for many goods, while a slowly recuperating U.S. economy, soft housing market and a persistently high unemployment rate are holding down prices for U.S. services.
The opposing pull of prices for goods and services could have a big effect on the course of U.S. inflation. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is betting that rising prices for goods like gas and food will not spread into the broader economy
Goods inflation has outstripped services inflation for long stretches since mid-2007, something that hadn't happened since the 1970s. For most of the last 30 years, goods prices had been held down, in part, by cheap imports from low-wage countries like China. But recently, China and other developing markets have become huge consumers of commodities, which is putting upward pressure on American prices for many globally traded goods.
One worry, however, is that rising food and energy prices could hit households in the pocketbook and make them less willing to spend on other goods and services, weakening the recovery. Raising interest rates in that climate could slow growth at a time when unemployment is still high.
Plenty could go wrong with Mr. Bernanke's plan. For one, the rising commodities prices could trigger broader inflation, as happened in the 1970s. Corporate executives, in interviews and in conference calls with analysts, say pressure is mounting. Fearful that inflation will return, some firms might start raising prices, starting an upward spiral.
"The inflation dynamic can be quick to materialize and painful to eradicate once it takes hold," Rep. Paul Ryan, the Wisconsin Republican who chairs the House Budget Committee, warned Mr. Bernanke last week. "It's hard to overstate the consequences of getting this wrong."
Some companies already have said they intend to raise prices. McDonald's Corp. Chief Financial Officer Pete Bensen told analysts in January that the company is considering price increases of 2% to 2.5% this year.
Apparel could be the next sector hit by the global inflation wave, with prices pushed up by rising cotton prices, increasing labor costs in China and other factors. Thursday's Labor Department report said that apparel prices rose 1% in January alone.
"Apparel has been deflationary for 20 years," Mike Ullman, chief executive of J.C. Penney Co., told investors last month. Now the retail industry, he said, is bracing for price increases when fall apparel lines hit the racks. "The question is how can we mitigate, as much as possible, any shock value of something [people are] used to paying $19.95 for, that might be $21.95 from the competition or us."
Some parts of the services sector seem immune to downward price pressure—notably education and health. Yet even in those areas, there is some downward pressure. Dental services prices were up 2.7% in 2010, the smallest annual increase since 1962, according to the Labor Department.
Funeral directors say higher commodities prices have increased some key merchandise costs for consumers. At Glenn Funeral Home & Crematory in Owensboro, Ky., the cost of a standard steel casket has risen to $1,295, from around $1,000 three years ago. "We have seen significant increases in merchandise costs over the last three or four years, sometimes as much as 6% or 8%," says Glenn Taylor, who runs the family business. "It is outstripping the inflation rate."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703312904576146500586838290.html
Right, so you publish in its entirety an article that demolishes the whole inflation is running rampant.
Straw-man. You are putting words in my mouth. I never said rampant.
I've said it's running higher than official numbers, and based on policy the numbers have the potential to get worse.
You idiot.
What is the title of this thread?
Who posted it?
oh dear lord this is fun. so rs, you hate krugman, but he has a point here. your MIT billion price whatever only includes the price of goods, not services. guess what, services matter in our economy. hahahaha.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/the-billion-price-index/
Good times good times
Cream cheese
with chives.
What an exciting subject.
Cream cheese
with chives.
and concentration camped jews, right?
?
w67 made a funny earlier. it was deleted, just like all the funnies that truly reflect his hideous nature, and he may go on being his silly sarcastic self, sporadically taking time out to berate people for being bigots.
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You idiot.
What is the title of this thread?
Who posted it?
Flmaoz. Yo Lucille.
W67- 'blacks should not b profiled'
Lucille - 'you've got no right to talk about blacks, you are not black!'
W67- 'go eat shit lucille, and fk your mama too'
you have always been and will always be a worthless piece of trash. everyone of any significance can see it, because they are taught to from an early age, and they will never let you play with them. no matter how many used yachts you acquire.
>W67- 'go eat shit lucille, and fk your mama too'
Wow, someone doesn't know how to handle his anger. Hope the wife and kids aren't near.
although, i do wonder if the jewish guy ar almost married all those years ago would have been upset by the thing's comment. since his jewishness and presence in her life has been invoked as proof positive of her non anti semitism. perhaps banging a jewish guy on a pretty regular basis 80 years ago excuses one's friendship with a lowlife who makes sick holocaust references during inconsequential internet arguments? perhaps.
'everyone of any significance' on an anonymous re board! Thatz rich like fine cream cheese.....
So says the trolls.....
Didnt make money to have friends,
Didnt buy a boat to be popular,
Dont travel to crow to my coworkers,
Dont squat 545lbs to walk around in tights,
Not on se to make friends with trolls or borkers or hangers on.
Fk the bubble, fk the troll and fk you lucille/huntersburg/hfs. And fk your choice of career.
"since his jewishness and presence in her life has been invoked as proof positive of her non anti semitism."
which, if memory serves, was a response to being pressed to clarify her insinuation that israel is a mistake that should not have been made. but hey, that guy was great in the sack and to deny that would make her an anti semite. which she is definitely not.
>Didnt make money to have friends,
Didnt buy a boat to be popular,
Dont travel to crow to my coworkers,
Dont squat 545lbs to walk around in tights,
Not on se to make friends with trolls or borkers or hangers on.
Fk the bubble, fk the troll and fk you lucille/huntersburg/hfs. And fk your choice of career
Holy Crap. Don't hit the family or anyone else. What made you so bitter and how much have you been drinking that it all spews out tonight?
uh oh. he thinks you're me! or am i you?
>although, i do wonder if the jewish guy ar almost married all those years ago would have been upset by the thing's comment. since his jewishness and presence in her life has been invoked as proof positive of her non anti semitism. perhaps banging a jewish guy on a pretty regular basis 80 years ago excuses one's friendship with a lowlife who makes sick holocaust references during inconsequential internet arguments? perhaps.
How do you know so much about who people almost married?
sigh. i wish i didn't remember half the shit i do.
>pressed to clarify her insinuation that israel is a mistake that should not have been made
What? Some nut said this on streeteasy? When? Where? And unless there's a stake in the game and is from the middle east, why would someone say this?
>uh oh. he thinks you're me! or am i you?
Not sure what you mean. But I am worried for the safety of his family.
i'm not digging it up, cheeky, you're better at that. i don't even remember what the actual thread was about, but a bunch of people who are still around saw it.
Can you give more context?
I just googled the guy, this is just strange: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/10221
fine, if you really insist, i'll try to find it. but this may take a while.
i can't find it right now. maybe on the morning when energy and attention span are more accommodating.
Is the guy some sort of Neo Nazi?
found it!
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/20950-for-those-who-want-it-all-except-to-pay-for-it?page=3
"Is the guy some sort of Neo Nazi?"
the neo nazi co op board rejected his package. wouldn't even grant the poor thing the dignity of an interview. it's a perfectly adequate package! racist f8cks
"And fk your choice of career"
and i am appalled and offended by this derogatory accusation of having a career. i have no such thing!
how about that krugman piece? you know, the one that pointed out that RS's MIT billion price index only covered goods and not services?
damn, there's a lot of grey in this thread. lucy, hon, did you just get a nanny or something? and tell us again how young and pretty you are.
sounds hot
and tell us again how young and pretty you are.
no more free dirty talk from lucy. if you want to read about how young and pretty and how much i like you, that'll be $3.99 per minute. major credit cards excepted.
nanny? why, you think i should keep my cute little lady brain on the mothering and the housewifery? what if i went to yale? not that you're reading this, but it's not *my* fault i know more about you than i could ever wish to not know. of course you're not reading this, though. you don't mingle with greys or jews.
and falcogold, i do believe THIS thread would have been more appropriate for posting your question.