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Started by 911turbo
26 days ago
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Wow, I can’t believe this guy Mamdani actually has a chance to become NYC mayor. Free childcare? Almost doubling minimum wage? Rent freeze? Free buses? Where is the money going to come from to pay for all this? It’s very sad to live in a city where so many people could actually vote for this guy. Do any of his supporters have real jobs and pay taxes? I guess if you live off government subsidies... [more]
Response by MTH
26 days ago
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Yes, more free stuff for everyone before we get around to fixing tax based services that are a wreck. Great thinking.

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Response by Krolik
26 days ago
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I am on board with free childcare (because having children is a social good and should be encouraged; because being a parent of a young child is extremely hard and expensive and most parents need help desperately; it also allows women to have less career interruptions which is good for their productivity; plus children are most vulnerable society members that need a level playing field) and free buses (because it improves the product).

City-run grocery stores or a rent freeze are bad ideas.

Doubling the minimum wage will put full time and even half-time minimum wage workers above Medicaid limit, and 50% of the city is on Medicaid. Maybe the savings will come from pushing these people off Medicaid (just kidding).

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
26 days ago
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Free child care needs to be means tested.

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Response by Krolik
26 days ago
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Why? Public school isn't.

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Response by 911turbo
26 days ago
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“ Doubling the minimum wage will put full time and even half-time minimum wage workers above Medicaid limit, and 50% of the city is on Medicaid. Maybe the savings will come from pushing these people off Medicaid (just kidding).”

That assumes those workers haven’t been laid off. Look at California. Raising the minimum wage will result in people losing their jobs. Only the very naive would think the majority of businesses will simply maintain the same size workforce if minimum wage is doubled. Business won’t just absorb those costs. Even if they did, they will be based onto consumers. I’m not saying we should never raise minimum wage, it should rise to keep with inflation. But $16.50 an hour to $30??? Find me an economist who thinks this is a good idea

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Response by 300_mercer
25 days ago
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If San Fran quality of life situation can improve as per NYPost, why can't NYC with Cuomo.

https://nypost.com/2025/06/20/real-estate/downtown-san-francisco-is-seeing-home-prices-rebound/

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Response by 300_mercer
25 days ago
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I have mentioned in other threads before, NYC vs other areas suburbs/sunbelt price differential pre-covid to now is 30-50% with NYC staying more or less the same and others going up 30-50%. So NYC is already looking cheaper on a relative basis. Rent increases going at 5-7% per year will eventually help sales. But a mayor focused on quality of life and safety for New Yorkers is what we need from a Mayor rather than throwing $1bn here and there on housing illegal immigrants. If Cuomo wins, I am hopeful.

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Response by 911turbo
25 days ago
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“If San Fran quality of life situation can improve as per NYPost, why can't NYC with Cuomo.”

I own a condo in one of the areas this article mentioned, Nob Hill. The fact that LIST prices are up 51% is a pretty useless number…what matters is SALES prices. Trust me, they are not up 51%. Maybe the 51% represents renewed optimism or unrealistic expectations. I bought my condo in 2022 for $200k LESS than the seller paid in 2019. It’s in a good area that is not rife with homeless and crime. I’m 5 mins walk from Trader Joe’s and 10 mins from Whole Foods (what real estate agent doesn’t like to brag how close their listing is to a Whole Foods). I had thought by now, almost 3 years later, I could sell for an easy 10% profit AFTER all my closing costs paid. After analyzing the market carefully with a realtor I trust, it became clear that I best I break even. A condo in SOMA area, not too far away, and also near a Whole Foods recently slashed its asking price to more than $400k less than what that seller paid in 2019. So for condos, even in good parts of the city, it’s still a struggle, if you bought in 2017-2021 and have to sell now, you’re losing money. Single family homes are a totally different beast, I think single family homes in prime parts of San Francisco are still doing well and multiple offers, bidding wars are not so uncommon. I are optimistic about Lurie but we need to wait and see. The previous mayor(s) and city government that were so obviously woke and progressive to the point of providing drug addicts with free needles did so much damage to a once beautiful city that it will take a long time to reverse the decay. I’m definitely no fan of Cuomo but obviously compared to the other choices, he is the best bet. Cities need to focus on law and order and the needs of hard working, law abiding taxpayers who deserve relatively clean and safe streets, public transportation, parks, etc…Enough sanctuary city craziness, freebies that we have no ways of paying for and letting criminals out on bail to recommit crimes, if there even arrested in the first place. I’m optimistic about San Francisco because of the new mayor, but if NY elects Mamdami or some other socialist nut case, I’m definitely leaving the city per, even if it means selling my condo for a loss, because this will not be good for New York.

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Response by MTH
25 days ago
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The city needs a more sustainable model. Start by fixing what is already supposed to be working.

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Response by MTH
20 days ago
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Wow - Mamdani has pulled off a win. I just hope he doesn't get out over his skis. Funny he didn't win with working class voters when his whole campaign was based on affordability. Any thoughts on how likely it is his victory will change real estate markets?

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Response by Rinette
20 days ago
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Working class is often supported by unions, state & city jobs and their projections, etc.

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Response by value
20 days ago
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Everything he promised , including an increase in taxation needs State approval, which he will not get

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Response by nyc_sport
20 days ago
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This is just one of many reflections of the broken state of our two-party political system. He perhaps "won" a mayoral race by making overtly false promises about graft and other topics over which a mayor has no control, that purchased votes amounting to less than 5% of the population (or 8% of registered NYC voters). Some may recall that his socialist protege, AOC, netted a grand total of less than 16,000 votes in the primary that catapulted her into an un-losable general election, for a Congressional seat that she has now held basically without challenge. Good luck to those few who chose this path. You are stuck with it, while the "rich" among the 8 million+ New Yorkers who did not are free to leave.

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Response by MTH
20 days ago
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@Rinette - OK, that makes sense.

@nyc_sport Ha! True enough. You have to wonder why anyone would want the office. Has AOC delivered much for her constituents?

Once again, happy the Democratic machine got a drubbing, not happy with who won. But looking at Europe, not at all sure a proliferation of parties is the way to go.

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Response by Krolik
20 days ago
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I think this just means we will get Eric Adams again.

Personally, I am glad a person who resigned after harassment allegations from 13 women is not the nominee. That's too many women to be a made up story, and there have to be consequences.

In many ways AOC has been great. We need more young people in politics, so I am very excited for Mamdani's future. Both are great communicators.

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Response by 911turbo
20 days ago
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Definitely don’t feel too bad about Cuomo and I suspect Eric Adams is pretty happy about Tuesdays results. I think voter turnout will play a big role. Mamdani supporters are young and very enthusiastic and will show up regardless of weather. I the heat way hurt Cuomo in that his supporters I suspect skew older and maybe didn’t want to leave their comfy AC cooled home to schlep to the voting stations. Regardless, I think Mamdani would have won had the weather been cooler, he had the momentum going in, but I think it would have been closer

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Response by MTH
20 days ago
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Adams is just as bad as Cuomo. Again: consequences.

As @value pointed out elsewhere, maybe of Mamdani's ideas would require Albany to sign off. And it probably wouldn't.

NY really needs open primaries.

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Response by stache
19 days ago
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This is a shock wave vote against MAGA.

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Response by 911turbo
19 days ago
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I’m sure most Republicans are delighted at the success of Mamdani because if this is a preview of what they have to face in 2028, the Democrats will suffer an even worse beating than they did in 2024. Meanwhile, I’m pretty sure most “moderate” Democrats are pretty horrified about Tuesdays result even though few will say that publicly….

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Response by Rinette
19 days ago
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>NY really needs open primaries.

We have an "open" general ... and it's open to Mamdani, Cuomo if he chooses, Adams, Sliwa, and hopefully Paperboy.

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Response by Rinette
19 days ago
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correcting above:
Working class is often supported by unions, state & city jobs and their proTections, etc.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
18 days ago
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Cuomo being forced out wasn't really over the harassment allegations. He had been such a scumbag for so long and so many times to such a wide selection of people/groups that there was an army of people waiting to take their shot. This was an opening so they Julius Caesared him.

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Response by MTH
18 days ago
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As a general rule, open primaries are better for moderates.

Now we have a right wing populist President and a left wing populist presumptive mayor. Our society is becoming more and more juvenile.

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Response by multicityresident
12 days ago
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It is too awful watching my team "own goal." I have stopped judging anyone who does not vote for my preferred candidate. While I have never closely followed NYC politics such that my view is not fully informed, from what I have read, this guy would not be my personal choice. I do not see the Dems regaining control of the country anytime soon.

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Response by streetsmart
12 days ago
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The Dems could do very well in 2026 now that the big ugly bill has passed and ready to be signed into law.

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Response by MTH
11 days ago
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My guess is they'll pick up the House. When people talk about generational change in the Democratic party, it doesn't have to be AOC or Mamdani. It could just as easily be Ritchi Torres, Jake Auchincloss, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez - young and moderate.

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Response by pinecone
10 days ago
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Agree, MTH. The Dem party needs moderates if it wants to survive. Not ultra-left, who are a turnoff to the majority of the country.

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