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Started by ues_shopper
over 15 years ago
Posts: 98
Member since: May 2007
Discussion about
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/379150-coop-14-east-90th-street-carnegie-hill-new-york 2nd floor apt. overlooking Madison that needs total renovation inc central air, new windows, kitchen, inc. pipes in the bathrooms and prob the outdoor space needs to be fixed-tiles are cracked and very uneven. Basically gut and beyond. Anybody have a ballpark on what this might cost and what it might be worth paying-assuming can't move in for a long time due to extensive renovations. Nice building and close to the park. On the market for 2 yrs.
Response by ues_shopper
over 15 years ago
Posts: 98
Member since: May 2007

01/22/2008 Previously Listed by Stribling at $2,900,000.
10/22/2008 Stribling Listing is no longer available. Last priced at $2,495,000.
02/04/2009 Listed by Corcoran at $1,975,000.
02/06/2010 Price decreased by 14% to $1,695,000.

Any thoughts?

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Response by Wbottom
over 15 years ago
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Member since: May 2010

id say beyond gut 600k and up

be sure you can work in months other than summertime in this n=building

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Response by generalogoun
over 15 years ago
Posts: 329
Member since: Jan 2009

This comment isn't about the renovation, but --- I would take $$$ off for the layout, too. You have to walk through either the LR or DR to get to any other room. The LR is chopped up by a hallway to the bedrooms and bathroom. It's not appealing so I wonder about eventual resale value.

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Response by apt23
over 15 years ago
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only way you will really know is to bring an architect/designer with specific list of what you want done. then whatever they tell you, plan 20% higher.

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Response by ues_shopper
over 15 years ago
Posts: 98
Member since: May 2007

Thank you for the input. I have seen many apartments that you have to walk through the bedrooms to get to the bathrooms. I didn't think about the future resale impact. Wonder why they were designed that way.
I thought the 2nd floor would also be difficult for resale. There is another 2nd floor on 91st/mad that has been written about recently.

Also there is an apt in the same line that has sold in the building on the 8th floor but apparently renovated. The agent keeps emphasizing the outdoor space but it seems to be more a negative b/c surrounded by tall buildings and will need to be fixed up too.

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Response by evnyc
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2008

UES, many (most?) prewar apartments of a certain vintage were configured that way. If they haven't been updated to suit modern preferences the ensuite bathrooms can be a drawback at resale.

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Response by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2008

I like this place and I like the layout. The second floor and the reno frighten me. I really don't know about $600K for a reno...I suspect that would be one first class renovation. Lets just say half and tack that on to the price. Now add in the fact that you won't live there for over a year cause that's the way it goes, so tack on the cost of two places for that period of time. Now tack on the psychological nightmare of a renovation (you will age at twice the normal rate). Do a little calculation and 'Whaaaala' that's an expensive purchase for the second floor even with double glazed windows.

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Response by ues_shopper
over 15 years ago
Posts: 98
Member since: May 2007

Thanks for the reassurance. I calculated it in a similar manner but the owner seems to think that an essentially never renovated prewar 2 bdrm (prob with lead paint too) on the 2nd floor is worth much more than it is. I probably should concentrate on renovated apts.
A little scared after the article in the nyt about renovations with lead paint.

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