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wsj non-sense about euro hitting nyc real estate

Started by Riversider
about 16 years ago
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Wow, what terrible reporting. Nothing but pure conjecture that a weak Euro will undermine NYC real estate prices. While this is the popular and obvious speculation, it may also be wrong. Europeans expecting their currency to decline versus the U.S. dollar may be very inclined to purchase a NYC condo as a hedge against their currency. Plus if you expect your money to lose value against the currency of an investment you plan on making, why not buy now? Market prices are not an exercise in looking back, but of looking forward. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703685404575307004152703726.html?mod=fox_australian
Response by urbandigs
about 16 years ago
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does seem like faulty logic and more of broker babble that in this day and age, makes the agent stating it appear way too salesy..

just wrote my two cents on the topic, which was discussed a few times in past 3 months

http://www.urbandigs.com/2010/06/europes_souring_taste_for_manh.html

in short, I like to look at how this may or may not be affecting the bids; the buyers. so to me, i see two forces at play given where we came from and this situation:

1. decline in confidence/neg wealth effect
2. decline in purchasing power

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Response by Riversider
about 16 years ago
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Urban, I'm taking a wait and see on whether the Euro exchange rate has any impact. What does concern me is if there's another genuine flight to safety away and away from any investment other than Treasuries and Gold. It is starting to feel like we may have another leg down in Credit. I don't think we've seen the full extent of what's going on with regards to European banks and Sovereign debt.

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Response by marco_m
about 16 years ago
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having ur revenues in the depreciating currency and ur costs in the appreciating currency is how to lose money....not make it.

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Response by urbandigs
about 16 years ago
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"I don't think we've seen the full extent of what's going on with regards to European banks and Sovereign debt. "

I dont think we will know the full extent, including US banks, for many years. Gold is not selling off. Its the only asset class to hold on. Telling.

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Response by sledgehammer
about 16 years ago
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WOW! This WSJ article totally contradicts this reuters article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65D4LS20100614

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Response by Riversider
about 16 years ago
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Dueling unsubstantiated opnions. love it.

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Response by bgrfrank
about 16 years ago
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Why don't we just worry about what US Citizens are doing in real estate? If the Europeans are buying extra expensive real estate or not doesn't change you and me and what we can pay.

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Response by somewhereelse
about 16 years ago
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You can talk about safe/hedging... but ultimately part of where the foreign dollars came from was just that the foreigners felt rich and had tons to spend.

You can talk about financial strategy all you want, but folks in a panic about their financial situations are a lot less likely to make large investments of any sort.

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Response by Riversider
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Depends on the level of anxiety in Europe...

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Response by somewhereelse
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given rioting in the streets (including over France changing retirement age) it sounds prety anxious to me. I can't imagine this is the environment that supports folks buying vacation properties in the US.

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Response by Riversider
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This is Europe. There is always rioting in the streets.

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