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Started by truthskr10
over 15 years ago
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I know hotels can somewhat do this with rooms they rent. But No smoking in a condo building? How is that possible to enforce? "The building boasts fantastic amenities such as: the duplex fitness center and sauna, children's playroom, garden room, private conservatory and unparalleled concierge services, everything you need at your fingertips. NO SMOKING BUILDING!" http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/470059-condo-400-east-51st-street-beekman-new-york
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Response by truthskr10
over 15 years ago
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THat's nuts. There are so many more dangerous hazzards in multi dwelling buildings that need more attention first.

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Response by alanhart
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Really? More than lung cancer, which kills more than all other well-known cancers combined, and 90% of whose victims are smokers, and which is pretty much nonscreenable and thus a death sentence upon diagnosis? Really, are there?

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Response by truthskr10
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Ahart
There ya go, 90% of victims are smokers, not second hand smokers...;)

Yes there are many other quality of life issues to be concerned with ahead of something that kills you 30 years later IMHO.

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Response by alanhart
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At what age do you start smoking, and how many young children do you have 30 years later when you die (a slow, excrutiating and very ugly death) from it?

How about your neighbors, possibly including infants, who smoke your cigarettes second-hand -- how old are they when they die 30 years later, and how does that affect those around them?

Take it outside and entirely anyway from people. And stop seeking enablers.

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Response by w67thstreet
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Death from smoking is long, painful and completely unnecessary. Little it's like a 3 year drowning session, where your family is helpless as you try a great some oxygen. And if you let ppl smoke around your children, it's like knowing your are letting the smoker drown your children bf your very eyes. Nobody better smoke around my kids.

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Response by truthskr10
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Ok guys, I get the hypersensitivity to smoking.
I agree, it's disgusting, I quit after 25 years of smoking, believe me, I know.
I dislkie it now as much if not more than you.
But not allowing someone to smoke in their own 4 walls? Really? How about cooking with curry? Crying kids? Should they be balled and gagged? Or just a no children building policy?

Ive smelled marijuana in some buildings and in some elevators. Ive chalked it up to deliverymen more than second hand smoke. And if your smelling neighbors smoke your in a poorly constructed building. You get what you pay for.

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Response by lad
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I'm as anti-smoking as you can get, but as someone who tends to leave windows cracked year round, I'd much rather if people smoked in their own enclosed space.

I've lived next door to indoor smokers (and do now) and also lived next to smokers who would go outside to light up. With the former, there's a faint smell in the hallway but nothing in our apartment. With the latter, you can't ever open windows. Someone can be smoking four stories below and I'll smell it like they're right next to me.

Interestingly, our board asked us a lot of questions about smoking (do we smoke, would we let people smoke on our terrace, how would we handle visitors who wanted to smoke), so perhaps there has been some issue with existing or past smokers in the building. Knock on wood, there hasn't been for us.

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Response by w67thstreet
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Truthsker, curry and kids crying have no long term health effects the last time I checked. 'me hearts a bowl of curry sometimes :)
I mean if asbestos didn't kill ppl, I'd be using it on my house, car boat, no?

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Response by truthskr10
over 15 years ago
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I can promise you there are some kids out there that are taking years off their parents life,and well, curry smelling walls got my brother a well below market price on a home he bought that my sister in law made good as new with scrubbing with bleach but seriously, tobacco then is a matter for governemnt to make just outright illegal then.

People smoking within their 4 walls is not affecting the health of their neighbors. Certainly not more than that haze covering the city I see every AM out my window.

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Response by truthskr10
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And the BTW, for anyone without a high floor apartment and especially southern views, go to your building's roof around 8/9 AM and taking a sweeping look at the southern horizon. You will freak out at the black haze hovering.

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Response by w67thstreet
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Truthsker. I had a good friend in hs who lived in bayside. He smokes I did not. His argument was I lived in the city where air pollution is high, so net net his 2 pack a day was him just keeping up with my living in manhattan.

My wife pointed out the flaw in his logic, but it escapes 'me now. I'll ask her later.

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Response by truthskr10
over 15 years ago
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yeah..smoker's deflections, heard 'em all, have said 'em all.

Biggest factor though unfortunately or fortunately is your genes. My unprofessional opinion. Can't escape your DNA. Sure, all those lungers out there have died because of smoking. All those who have not got sick however, is largely because of their DNA.

And biggest factor in one's health is weight. You can control just about every problem going south in your bloodwork with the excpetion of blood pressure with keeping the weight off.
Again my unprofessional opinion, just from personal experiences.

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