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Condo Conversions

Started by Rob360
over 15 years ago
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I just learned an interesting fact from my bank. On a Condo, a bank will not give a mortgage on the unit if the condo bldg is not 70% sold and 51% owner occupied. We were looking at a conversion where the sponser was only able to sell 50% of the units because the other 50% were rent stabilzed. So although, they had a bank that was willing to give you a mortgage on it(probably because they had the mtg on the building) if we wanted to sell the unit in a year or 2 the buyer prob could not get a mtg on it b/c the building would not be 70% sold or 51% owner occupied. Something to keep in mind when looking at a condo or a conversion!
Response by gcondo
over 15 years ago
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sign of the times? what condo conversion kept 50% as rent stabilized tenants?

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Response by Rob360
over 15 years ago
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845 Westend Ave

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Response by buyerbuyer
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"I just learned an interesting fact from my bank. On a Condo, a bank will not give a mortgage on the unit if the condo bldg is not 70% sold and 51% owner occupied."

I've heard that too, but I don't know how to reconcile that w

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Response by buyerbuyer
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with the various developments that have arrangements with banks to provide financing.

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Response by gcondo
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These are guidelines that do not have to apply to every borrower, if I am not mistaken. Banks can still lend at their own discretion.

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Response by Rob360
over 15 years ago
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It is not some much the initial purchaser who has an issue. The building usually has one bank that will give a mortgage to the initial purchaser, because that bank usually owns the mtg on the buidling so it is in their best interest to provide financing. It is when you go to re-sell it that that person buying from you will have a problem getting financing. Most of the big banks hold to their rules of 70% sold and 51% owner occupied. Could have a problem in the future re-selling in this type of building. Banks are very tight with money right now and I highly doubt they would take a risk like this

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Response by ephraim2
over 15 years ago
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gcondo: Sure, but they rarely exercise that discretion. In my experience, if a building has more than 10% owned by one entity, most banks won't touch it. (Exception: I know at least one Wells Fargo banker who was willing to work hard to get an exception to the rule.)

And gcondo, the problem isn't the banks. It's Fannie Mae. Of course, you can get a non-Fannie mortgage, but you'll pay more.

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Response by wellheythere
over 15 years ago
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FWIW, FHA is planning to revise their guidelines so that rent-regulated units are excluded from the calculation of % sold in condo conversions.

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