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Started by nonae
about 15 years ago
Posts: 2
Member since: Feb 2009
No one has mentioned that this building is on a 99 year land lease! Do these buyers understand what that means to them???????
Response by bob_d
about 15 years ago
Posts: 264
Member since: May 2010

Actually, I have no idea what that means, but maybe if I were a buyer I'd be motivated to find out.

So are you going to tell me what it means?

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Response by marco_m
about 15 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2008

is it really ?

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Response by ab_11218
about 15 years ago
Posts: 2017
Member since: May 2009

with the rest of the problems, who cares about 99 yr land lease.

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Response by Wbottom
about 15 years ago
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Member since: May 2010

yeah but the land lease makes the bulding a nonstarter--which makes very funny that there has been vigorous discussion

to much supply of real real estate to ever consider a land lease

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Response by juuceman
about 15 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2010

The building is on a 99 year land lease. RAL purchased the building and the land; the land was transferred to NYS and the building and the owners pays no taxes on the land, rather Payments in Lieu of Taxes ("PILOT"), to support the park, are made. The developer has secured a letter from the IRS that allows owners to deduct PILOT in the same manner that property taxes would be deducted.

The building pays $1.5 million/year for the first three years of the lease, then pays 3% increases per year for the next 96 years. At the end of this lease, the building has the right to purchase the land for $1 from the State.

This is VERY different from a typical land lease situation on a Manhattan apartment building, wherein the building sits on land owned by a third party, and is forced to negotiate a lease every ten to 20 years. Further, there is no PILOT, which means that there is no tax deductibility for owners.

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Response by juuceman
about 15 years ago
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btw, this is featured prominently in the special risks section of the offering plan for the building, and prospective owners and their attorneys should be well familiar with this..

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Response by nonae
about 15 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2009

Thanks for the info juuceman. A friend of mine has gotten THIS close to a purchase there until his attorney caught the land lease thing. He was advised by both his attorney & accountant that this would not be a sound investment.

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Response by juuceman
about 15 years ago
Posts: 84
Member since: Sep 2010

nonae - It's pretty straightforward, and in fact the land lease is a matter of public record and can be pulled off of ACRIS. There's nothing to 'catch' as the developer plainly discloses this within the first three pages of the offering plan. If your friend is wants to purchase in the building, he or she should speak with their attorney and accountant further to understand their objections. Given that the lease is fully negotiated for 99 years and that the building has the sole right to purchase the land for $1 after the 99 years, there's no legal issue involved. The accountant might be concerned with the relatively high carrying costs as they are covering the cost of the lease, however, there is no tax deductibility difference between this and any other condo that owns its land.

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Response by UWSFamily
about 15 years ago
Posts: 60
Member since: Apr 2010

Agree with juuceman. This is a non-issue.

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Response by somewhereelse
about 15 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2009

btw, isn't 3% a year for 96 years a 17x increase? It might only be a hair over inflation, but that adds up in 100 years

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