No inflation here..
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A United Nations index of global food costs hit a record high in December, surpassing the previous peak reached during the commodity-price surge of mid-2008. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/01/food-costs-record-high-un-global-index-commodities-.html
Jan. 5 (Bloomberg) -- World food prices rose to a record in December on higher sugar, grain and oilseed costs, the United Nations said, exceeding levels reached in 2008 that sparked deadly riots from Haiti to Egypt.
An index of 55 food commodities tracked by the Food and Agriculture Organization gained for a sixth month to 214.7 points, above the previous all-time high of 213.5 in June 2008, the Rome-based UN agency said in a monthly report. The gauges for sugar and meat prices advanced to records.
Sugar climbed for a third year in a row in 2010, and corn jumped the most in four years in Chicago. Food prices may rise more unless the world grain crop increases “significantly” in 2011, the FAO said Nov. 17. At least 13 people died last year in Mozambique in protests against plans to lift bread prices.
“There is still, unfortunately, the potential for grain prices to strengthen on the back of a lot of uncertainty,” Abdolreza Abbassian, senior economist at the FAO, said by phone from Rome today. “If anything goes wrong with the South American crop, there is plenty of room for them to increase.”
White, or refined, sugar traded at $752.70 a metric ton at 11:53 a.m. on NYSE Liffe in London, compared with $383.70 at the end of June 2008. Corn, which added 52 percent last year on the Chicago Board of Trade, was at $6.01 a bushel, down from $7.57 in June 2008. Soybeans were at $13.6325 a bushel, against $15.74 at the close of June 2008.
Demand From China
The cost of food climbed 25 percent from a year earlier in December, based on the FAO figures, after Chinese demand strengthened and Russia’s worst drought in a half-century devastated grain crops. The agency’s food-price indicator rose from 206 points in November.
Last month’s year-on-year rise compares with the 43 percent jump in food costs in June 2008. Record fuel prices, weather- related crop problems, increasing demand from the growing Indian and Chinese middle classes, and the push to grow corn for ethanol fuel all contributed to the crisis that year.
“In 2008 we had rapid increases in petroleum prices, fertilizer prices and other inputs,” Abbassian said. “So far, those increases have been rather constrained. It doesn’t really reduce the fear about what could be in store in the coming weeks or months.”
New York-traded crude was last at $88.44 a barrel, compared with $140 at the end of June 2008. Bulk urea pellets, used in fertilizer as a source of nitrogen, were at $320 a ton in the last week of December, against $460 in June 2008.
9.1 Billion People
Global food production will have to rise 70 percent by 2050 as the world population expands to 9.1 billion people from about 6.8 billion people in 2010, the FAO has said.
In response to the 2008 crisis, countries from India and Egypt to Vietnam and Indonesia banned exports of rice, a staple for half the world. Skyrocketing food prices sparked protests and riots in almost three dozen poor nations including Haiti, Somalia, Burkina Faso and Cameroon.
Sugar and oilseeds have a disproportionate effect on the FAO’s food index because it’s based on trade values for commodities, Abbassian said. The price of staples including rice is lower than in 2008, he said. Rough rice last traded at $13.90 per 100 pounds in Chicago, compared with $20.21 at the end of June 2008.
“If you want to see the index as a barometer of food crisis, I’m not so sure this is the right thing to do,” Abbassian said. “In the previous episode, really the main driver in food commodities was cereals. This time around, look at sugar and oilseeds.”
Grain Inventories
Compared with 2007-2008, many poor countries had “good or above-average” cereal harvests last year, the economist said. Production problems took place in grain-exporting countries, and “supply at hand should be adequate,” he said.
The FAO’s gauge for sugar prices reached 398.4 points last month, increasing from 373.4 in November. The meat-price index rose to 142.2 points from 141.5.
The agency’s cereal-price index jumped to 237.6 points in December, the highest level since August 2008, from 223.3 the previous month. The indicator for cooking oils advanced to 263 points, the highest since July 2008, from 243.3. The index for dairy prices rose to 208.4 points from 207.8.
Global grain output will have to rise at least 2 percent this year to meet demand in 2011-2012 and avoid further depletion of stocks, the UN agency has said.
The basis for the FAO index is 2002-04. The gauge includes commodity quotations that the agency considers representative for international food prices.
“The real uncertainty and problem is the 2011-2012 market,” Abbassian said. “We are at a very high level. If it’s further up than this, then you really begin to be concerned.”
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-01-05/world-food-prices-jump-to-record-on-sugar-oilseeds.html
I HATE saying that I agree with Riversider, even if I do for completely different reasons.
And today's data shows that things are actually getting worse, not better. QEII is not what is necessary; what is necessary is targeted WPA-type projects, but that's not going to happen, either.
This is all going to end ruinously - it's just a question of when the all-out signal happens. I suspect gold is the first to go.
If there were no food inflation why would companies have the need to make the packaging smaller? Or are they just concerned we eat too much?
Another Riversider coup de grace: he goes from a reasonably intelligent post to one about food container size.
Lame.
is inflation good or bad for NY real estate
Inflation favors owning real assets.
"Inflation favors owning real assets."
No it doesn't. Read "The Intelligent Investor," look at the data. Inflation is bad for everybody.
Actually, inflation is great if you are amongst the working poor: your wages will increase, and you don't have any asset.
Inflation destroys the working poor as wages never will rise as much as the prices of goods and services.
Funny enough, not including their real estate exposure, financial companies actually can do very well with high inflation as they can sell inflation hedging products to uneducated and informed customers and make an increased spread selling their "savings" products.
The higher inflation would continue to screw the conservative saver and reward the stupid home speculators and the financial institutions that enabled them.
Unfortunately, this is the new normal in our country.
Food is not the only component of inflation. Riversider has spent 123 posts cherry-picking prices that go up, and ignoring prices that go down.
Inflation is good for those holding large mortgages as overall salaries rise. It's also positive for real estate investors as rents will rise.
Unions create inflation with their artificially high labor rates. With non-union labor, the cost of construction and carrying charges would decrease by a good margin.
who's salary is going up?
QE2 was more of an attempt to avoid deflation rather than create inflation.
QE2 was a psychological ruse to get the market to go long risk and to transfer more funds to the banks. It worked on both accounts.
Clearly QE2 has not reduced rates and no economic stimulus works that fast.
QE2 obviously raised rates as it's supposed to.
Lots of people file standard deduction are in too low a tax bracket, don't have the accounting expertise etc and so do not really benefit from our crazy tax system. While it is true that rich people allocate a lower share of their income to food than a lower bracket person this fact is outweighed by the first point.
Oh and about Buffet. He has a house in California that's worth millions, defended Moody's bad ratings and is just not the altruist he's portrayed as in the media.
QE2 obviously raised rates as it's supposed to.
No, they thought by buying in the middle part of the yield curve those rates would decline as they pushed bond prices up. That didn't happen. Any explanation that rates went up because everyone became more confident in future economic prospectus is just ass backward.
i wonder how it compares to gates' compound? nobody mentions microsoft's boy wonder's pad.
how much money has buffett committed to charity? and convinced others to commit? not altruistic? you must be joking.
i agree that he talks the talk that will optimize profits for his shareholders. and because he is such a notable personality he is given more credence than perhaps his prognostications deserve. but that is hardly his fault. that's the fault of a fawning press who generally prefers upbeat news and positive spins regardless of where they come from.
It's the media's fault!