major new crime zone: the heart of the W. Village

Check this one out: 10th Street, 5th Ave, doesn't get any better area than that:
http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/26584/

Thank God we're getting some of the Old New York back.

If we're lucky we'll even be able to take back Bleecker Street!

The Village has long had among the highest crime rate in manhattan

was held up at gunpoint on jane a little over two years ago. this is life in an urban zone, especially when people become desperate.

It's still the best part of town, 7 foot tranny hookers and all... I wouldn't live any where else in this city.

"we'll even be able to take back Bleecker Street!"

matt, seriously lol

Yeah, Matthew, like you're really brave enough to take on the Jacobsistas. I think not. [Therefore I am not.]

no you didnt alan! JACOBSISTAS! that's too funny. i think i might be an easy crowd tonight though. happy 4th!

Maybe we need to bring Rudy back as Mayor...

Isn't he still in prison?

This area has had one of the highest crime rates if not THE continuously from Guliani's time to now. This is not NEW people.

NYCMatt, not much OT media/news work if people are not getting killed at night right?

Sunday, I think that Matt sympathizes with the criminals. After all, to complete the crime, often they have to stay up late, which impacts their body clock, which we all know if that criminal were a union member would entitle that criminal to 3.5x overtimepay (in addition to the other penalties).

"NYCMatt, not much OT media/news work if people are not getting killed at night right?"

I wouldn't know.

I don't do local news.

e76th: Held up at gunpoint on Jane st. Even 2 years ago the west Village was the place most likely to get mugged. Sorry to hear about your experience with that.(Usually kids with knives.)
Perry Street, West4th at West 10th (the corner that only locals can find).Seventh Ave.South., etc.
It does seem like Christopher Street is getting over-run with crime.

Many of the celebs living there are getting extra security. A few are getting armed security to stand guard outside their homes. You can spot them, standing/sitting on the stoops.

perhaps thieves find homosexuals, celebutantes and sex and the city wannabes to be easy targets

How do I apply for a handgun license?

Applicants must personally appear and submit a signed and notarized application to the License Division when applying. Fees may be paid by credit card or with two money orders. The application fee is $340.00. The fingerprint fee is $94.25. If you are paying with money orders, the money orders should be made payable to the “New York City Police Department.”

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permits/gun_licensing_faq.shtml#HowDoIApply

Funny, when I said I saw more personally frightening crime when living in the west village than on 157th st I was accused of being delusional. Yes, there is crime where I am now but I have to say, I'd rather watch a drug sale go down (peacefully) than be mugged or accosted. That said, the west village was fun as hell to live in. But I bristle when people imply living uptown is "dangerous."

"Many of the celebs living there are getting extra security. A few are getting armed security to stand guard outside their homes. You can spot them, standing/sitting on the stoops."

Truth: Really? It's that bad? I used to live on Perry, then moved to Charles, so I find this shocking. I never felt unsafe there.

"Even 2 years ago the west Village was the place most likely to get mugged."
Sorry to hear this. May I ask what time of day. night, wknd?

Thanks

ok...that's it....no tickets for you. and no limo.

Hand gun permit does not allow you to carry. A carry permit is basically impossible to get in NYC unless you are law enforcement or a diamond dealer.

This is ridiculous. The stats say otherwise. Why is it some people aren't happy unless they talk themselves into believing the end is nigh?
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs006pct.pdf

Today, why is it if NYC has 2 robberies the city "unsafe?" In the 80s, we were stronger than this!

I finally understand the Jacobistas joke.

But Mutumbo, you are right. As is Kyle.

huntersburg,

Were in a depression!

hi huntersburg!

Hello Mutombo and Lucille, how were your Indepdendence Days?

great! wonderful. how was yours?

If I complained, it would not change the situation, LOL. Overall good!

huntersburg,

How was your holiday?

Good thx.

did any good reading?

No, I slept all day yesterday, you?

I fell asleep reading a long post by financeguy and then 75th post by inonada saying exactly the same thing.

LOL! I have to see that thread.

>that thread.

Already 4 this month alone.

dwell: It appears to be bad enough that they are employing extra security. That's a good thing for the surrounding homes and the block.

Two years ago: Nights: weekdays and weekends. Mostly young kids with knives. Happened to a few people I know. Read about the others in the news. Usually one kid, maybe two. The roving gangs thing is the new threat down there.

Pistol permits: Carry, premises and target; in decending order of how difficult to get permit.
You can get carry if you're a celeb/public figure-type. (Or work and travel with.)
Premises is for it's O.K. to use it to defend yourself in your home, but you can't carry it on your person in the street. Not even outside your front door.
Target is keeping it in a locked case both in your home and on the way to the pistol range; where you have to go take target practice on a regular basis.

wonder if the PATH has something to do with it.

kylewest: I know.
It's the roving gang thing that's scary to residents.
If one of the store-owners gets robbed in their store: instant pistol premises permit (if they don't have a police record, and after they pass a very long interview at Police Plaza with a tough NYPD interviewer.
I was interviewed for 15 minutes, but it can last up to an hour for others.)

It's the fault of all the Greenwich Village bohemians.

Hand gun permit does not allow you to carry. A carry permit is basically impossible to get in NYC unless you are law enforcement or a diamond dealer.

Or any business were you are weekly making substancial cash deposits to the bank.

"wonder if the PATH has something to do with it."

Can always tell the Jersey idiots crossing nyc streets. (that applies to white collar as well as jeans around the ankle)

somewhereelse
about 1 hour ago
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report abuse wonder if the PATH has something to do with it.

no, it's that homosexuals, celebutantes, and retards that watch too much sex in the city are easy prey.

"wonder if the PATH has something to do with it."

The crime rates are similarly high in meatpacking and northern Soho. And there are MTA subway stops and NYC HUD housing projects nearby. Its funny that people assume its the PATH somehow, when there are plenty of other culprits, potentially. Why not the 1 train or AC from upper Manhattan or the Bronx? Or the projects on 24th etc? Or people from BK on the JMZ or L? Or poor people living right there in the village?

The PATH goes near ultra-low crime BPC too. That is THE safest part of the entire five borough area.

"Its funny that people assume its the PATH somehow, when there are plenty of other culprits, potentially."

Sometimes, it's just insane to ignore the obvious.

As far as stats go: Many mugging victims who get mugged for cash only (and they are many, kylewest)
don't bother to report the crime to the NYPD. No stats on that.

It takes hours and days, looking at mug-shots, even just waiting at a police precinct can take an hour or more to file a complaint and then wait more time to speak to an anti-crime detective.
Tourists don't want to deal with that. They are here for a limited amount of time and must return home. They won't be back in N.Y.C. for line-ups and even if a suspect is caught; trial.

Many muggers just want the cash. Not the credit cards or the watches,and all that. It's much easier for them.

"Sometimes, it's just insane to ignore the obvious."

"Can always tell the Jersey idiots crossing nyc streets. (that applies to white collar as well as jeans around the ankle)"

"wonder if the PATH has something to do with it."

interesting. is jersey the new black?

is lucille the street idiot?

f*ck off. lucille is fragile today.

asked and answered.

is columbiacunty the se knob polisher?

no need to respond cunty. we know

lucille/jimboob/hfs/cburg.

what can i say?

Victim of a crime in Columbia County?

call the Columbia County District Attorney Victim Advocate - (518) 828-3414

stop saying we're the same person. we're really not. not even a little bit.

goddammit

Don't sweat it , Duchess.

lucille claiming we are the same person is the only thing thing that poor bastard has to cling to

Dutchess? Too rich for Columbia County, even further north from NYC than Dutchess County.

We are the same person though, very simply we can post simultaneously by opening 3 different browsers, pre-typing our messages under different names, and then pressing Enter at the same time.

well i own a tablet a blackberry and a couple of laptops. i suppose i could, but why bother?

For a list of assisted living facilities in Columbia County, use this link: http://www.caring.com/local/assisted-living-facilities-in-columbia-county-new-york

>well i own a tablet

A tablet? Tell me you are one of the 300 people in NYC who bought a Blackberry Playbook or a Samsung Galaxy...

Backed up in Columbia County?

http://www.yellowbook.com/yellow-pages/?what=plumbers&where=columbia+county%2C+ny

thanks truth

we're not the same person anymore, gingerbread man of streeteasy. i am lobotomizing you out of my head.

i'll let you guess which hberg. suffice it to say i found the ipad too large for mu purposes.

the girls didn't realize it was an ipad and thought you were just happy to see them?

I just did a google search, and apparently there are no places were you can purchase an iPad in Columbia County, New York.

it was to heavy to throw at the robbers in the wv

where the destitute throngs of jerseyites surely priced out of manhattan come to pillage?

well where they go to get drunk and high at any rate. which is probably the real reason behind the crime.

call the exterminator.

cockroaches.

i've had enough of your racism, columbiacounty

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who are you kidding?

people from nj are roaches?

nope.

just you.

and lucille (you)

and cburg (you)

foolish old twat

lucille claims to be young but i'm with you...highly unlikely.

uncle cc, i won't go out with you and flattery will get you nowhere

i thought you thought we were the same person? try and keep up cc, you are slipping

you have to try and keep up.

you are all the same. who the hell are you kidding?

not sure. take a poll to see how many other people agree with you.

lets ask lucille and cuntersburg.

point of contention has been entered into the minutes of this meeting and will be addressed in due time

Here is what I do not get, again. BPC has the lowest crime rate of any neighborhood in the five boroughs. Its right across from a PATH station. The area around WTC have crime rates higher than BPC, but far lower than the W Vil. Similarly, the crime rates near the 23rd street and 34th street PATH stations are lower than the W Vil. Finally, there are far more MTA stations than there are PATH stations in the area. Yet Matt says its "obvious" the PATH is why there is crime in the W Village.

Brilliant analysis jason. But how about this analysis: If we removed the PATH station from Christopher Street, would we have the same level of crime? I think we all know that it would be reduced. And I think we all know that those taking the PATH in to Christopher Street probably wouldn't be redirected to Battery Park City.

Also, there's a PATH station at 23rd and Sixth ... do we see roving bands of Jersey yewts and super-high crime rates around there?

Matthew is from a place so deep in New Jersey that it's out the other side.

Isn't Christopher the first stop off the Path making it convenient for those coming from "the west". I seem to remember way back when there was a similar problem at the same Path stop. It's a good jump off and jump back on station. The direct paralell would be eighth avenue in the 40's where the hookers used to line up waiting for the guys driving out of the Lincoln Tunnel making a quick stop for whatever and going around the black and right back to through the tunnel. I think that underbelly of life has missed their calling in scouting demographically high traffic locations for services.

to reduce crime in wv requires the physical removal of wv from wv. very expensive neighborhood where many locals have more $ than they know what to do with, the "tourists" are out partying, they have money to spend and vices to quench and their guard is down. the bad guys are not stupid or they wouldn't last very long as bad guys now would they. not much more complicated than that.

jim_hones10
about 20 hours ago somewhereelse
about 1 hour ago
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report abuse wonder if the PATH has something to do with it.

no, it's that homosexuals, celebutantes, and retards that watch too much sex in the city are easy prey.

"guys driving out of the Lincoln Tunnel making a quick stop for whatever and going around the black and right back to through the tunnel"

irony? nj hookers and drugs coming to manhattan to service junkies and johns from nj...the industry desperately needs some sort of market research and cost cutting overhaul, stat

alanhart, there have not been any bohemians in the West Village since the death of Dr. Longhair in 1979. They buried him in the backyard and built a condo on top of him.

..all these kids are from Newark who hop into the PATH.. there was a complaint from residents about this years back as they'd come in and 'vogue' and drink on the west side piers..

..frontin like they leyomi pshh

wv mountain momma take me home country roads

If I paid my 35 cents to ride the PATH to mugging opportunities, I'd so totally get off in Hoboken to rob those polluted whitebread 22-year-olds rather than wait the extra 3 minutes to get to St. Xto4

And this, Alan, is why you simply don't have a head for business.

But I'm sure you still have a bod for sin.

I remember reading about a one-boy crime spree in the West Village around a couple of years ago.

It was a ten-year-old kid. One night a guy was walking with his girlfriend and when the little kid attempted to mug them, the guy thought he was kidding. He told the kid to piss off, or something like that.

I'm sure some of you can find a link to that somewhere.

That's really not a very nice thing for a guy to say to a kid.

"I'd so totally get off in Hoboken to rob those polluted whitebread 22-year-olds"

have you been to hobo lately... most of the 22 year olds are meatheads from Paramus and Morristown...

...hmm rob able bodied closet cases (hii Grindr) in hobo or rich old ladies one stop away..

time to vogue