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"all cash" requirement seems fishy

Started by notadmin
over 14 years ago
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The realtor claims that the "all cash" requirement comes from the fact that "the unit needs a new kitchen and bathrooms". This is the first time I hear something of the sort. So I wondered, what are the acceptable reasons why a cash transaction is required?
Response by semerun
over 14 years ago
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Two very different scenarios come to mind. In some higher end buildings the coop board expects no mortgages. In a financially troubled building- banks may not be willing to lend and the unit owners may ask for all cash.

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Response by lad
over 14 years ago
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Is the property in shell conditions? Oftentimes a mortgage lender will not write a loan until the unit has a basic functioning kitchen and bath.

Sometimes the seller can get away with hooking up a cheap secondhand stove and a sink if the property is not completely falling apart.

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Response by caonima
over 14 years ago
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in some neighborhood such as harlem, people are still asking for peak bubble price for shell-like house. and they know the house won't get mortgage anyway. so they are only waiting for rich fools

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Response by huntersburg
over 14 years ago
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I just googled "caonima". Now I understand your point of view.

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Response by tommy2tone
over 14 years ago
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I hear you about the Harlem shells and rich fools

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Response by Pawn_Harvester
over 14 years ago
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Shells in harlem are priced based on the value of a fully renovated townhouse. Shell SROs cannot be borrowed against though traditional lender.

I would rather be a rich fool than a poor one...

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Response by huntersburg
over 14 years ago
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wasn't mimi looking to buy a Harlem SRO and evict all of the tenants so she'd have a place to live when she visited from Argentina? Whatever happened to mimi? Also, whatever happened to apt23?

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Response by notadmin
over 14 years ago
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> Is the property in shell conditions? Oftentimes a mortgage lender will not write a loan until the unit has a basic functioning kitchen and bath.

sorry for the delay! it's nicely renovated actually. How can I tell whether it's a requirement for the unit (if it's a short sale, say) or for the whole building.

Wonder when do banks/GSEs black list a building: when many units are owned by the same person, when many units are rented (vs owner occupied) or when many units fell behind in common costs, there are big assessments coming... Are there publicly available lists of black listed buildings? (by Fannie I guess, was told it's Fannie the one that sets that decides on which buildings to "black list").

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> wasn't mimi looking to buy a Harlem SRO and evict all of the tenants so she'd have a place to live when she visited from Argentina? Whatever happened to mimi?

true! long time no see. maybe she found more prosperous lands for that activity. NY court moves too slow for predatory buyers anyway.

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Response by front_porch
over 14 years ago
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Your mortgage banker will tell you why the bank won't underwrite.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by mimi
over 14 years ago
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Still looking, and glad I did. What a jerk you are, notadmin. How can you say I wanted to evict anybody. I was just asking and learning about the laws that protect tenants of SROs to not get stuck buying a place that somebody that lived there 20 years ago for 3 months can reclaim. I see that SE continues being a place where disfunctional people channel their hatred. How lame, how boring, how sad.

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Response by mimi
over 14 years ago
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Ah, I see the nasty comment was from whatever reincarnation of the troll huntersbug, not notadmin. Me a predator, that is funny indeed. And I move slow as you can see.

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Response by huntersburg
over 14 years ago
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mimi mimi

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Response by notadmin
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lol, how funny you are mimi!

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Response by caonima
over 14 years ago
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mimi, where did u go? why u disappear for so long (9 months?)

how's house hunting process? anything interesting to share?

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Response by notadmin
over 14 years ago
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Here's another answer from a realtor trying to sell another unit with the "all cash" requirement. This time around it's not cause the unit needs a new kitchen/bathroom.

"The sellers require cash at this time."

This is total BS imho.

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Response by caonima
over 14 years ago
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notadmin, sometimes there's hidden structural issues in the house covered by cheap renovation, and the owner must expect a quick close so that the issues won't be discovered

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Response by truthskr10
over 14 years ago
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>So I wondered, what are the acceptable reasons why a cash transaction is required?

How about if a seller already went into contract with someone else but couldnt close because buyer's bank balked at the last moment? Losing 2/3 months of market time,etc.

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Response by falcogold1
over 14 years ago
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What if it's a new development with less that 50% sold and banks just are not lending in this situation. That would require all cash. New kitchens and bathrooms....what could that mean? Prehaps there are NO bathrooms or kitchen. Then there would not be a c of o and that might interfear with anyone chances of a mortage from a bank...that might require all cash. Is the owner a Columbian cartel drug lord who is most comfortable dealing in cash?
Wait, I got it...
The current owner is Bashar Assad, current dictator of Syria. Conditions in Syria, being what they are, an all cash buy would best suit a fleeing despot. I heard that Kadafi inisted on all cash buys at the end. I bought a coop in Sharm El Shiek from Mubarak last spring. Come to think of it, that's probably why he insisted on an all cash deal in shekels.

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