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does 33% housing rule still apply

Started by Stick_man
over 14 years ago
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I can remember years ago when 50% off my money went to rent. not fun. is it still normal to pay more than the national avg for housing in ny?
Response by NWT
over 14 years ago
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Yes. See http://furmancenter.org/research/sonychan/. In prime Manhattan neighborhoods, median "rent burden" is around 27% and rising. In NYC as a whole it's more like 31%.

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Response by NYCMatt
over 14 years ago
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There is no "normal".

There is only healthy and unhealthy.

"Healthy" is being able to pay all of your housing costs with one week's NET pay.

"Unhealthy" is being forced to use two weeks or more of net pay to pay for housing.

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Response by new2RE
over 14 years ago
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Good for you NYCMatt. No surprise that your definition is quite rigid. Thank God we all don't have to live with you

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Response by NYCMatt
over 14 years ago
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Yes, I can see how fiscal responsibility would be seen by most on this board as being "quite rigid".

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Response by falcogold1
over 14 years ago
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Matt is using the 'old rule of thumb' on housing expense.
It's the rule I grew up with.
NYC does challenge that rule.

Maybe in Manhattan you might have to go 35-40%.
Now if that's a good idea or not is another question.

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Response by new2RE
over 14 years ago
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I believe Matt said housing costs should only account for 25% of net income. Given total tax burden in NYC, health care coverage, 401K contribution - my net is well under half my gross. I think Matt's rule is extremely rigid. Of course if you purchased many years ago, the rule would not prove as challenging. Just my opinion

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Response by NYCMatt
over 14 years ago
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"Maybe in Manhattan you might have to go 35-40%."

Or you could just wisely live within your means.

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Response by huntersburg
over 14 years ago
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Matt, you don't live within your means. That's why you have to organize labor slowdowns to get triple penalty overtime, right?

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