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ONE 57 may take a little longer to build

Started by Riversider
about 13 years ago
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http://instagram.com/p/RYGSPsKWiS/ Should more precautions have been taken? This looks very dangerous.
Response by Riversider
about 13 years ago
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If there is damage, wonder if they'll claim Force majeure?

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Response by Consigliere
about 13 years ago
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What is Negligence?

I'll take avoidable disasters for $1,000.00 Alex?

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Response by Truth
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I knew those cranes were going to collapse and fall.
I'm watching it on EyeWitness News now.

I'm sooo glad I no longer live in Manhattan and don't own property there anymore.

You O.K. at home, Riversider?

Hang on, everybody-- HERE WE GO!

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Response by Consigliere
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@riversider

I doubt it, I think even Ben Franklin knew this hurricane was coming.

If a sudden tornado came, that is a different story.

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Response by Riversider
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Things are good truth.

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Response by Truth
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O.K., Riversider.
Hang on!!!

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Response by Riversider
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It will be interesting to know if the crane was secured in advance. Did they weld blocks onto the crane to prevent it from moving?

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Response by Consigliere
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Why didn't they take it down?

Aren't they expensive? Aren't they worth keeping safe (from the builder's POV)? Even if it was in vacant area where no threat of hurting others, I would want to keep my equipment safe and working right.

Just seems stupid.

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Response by Riversider
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Response by flarf
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Looks like it bent over completely backward.

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Response by Riversider
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Response by HarlemFF
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geniuses

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Response by Truth
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Yeah, it looks like it snapped and is hanging by (metal) threads.

How is it in Harlem, HarlemFF?

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Response by Brooks2
about 13 years ago
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You think that $90 million apartment is still $90 million

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Response by Truth
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You can have it for the "hurricane special" price of 80 mil.

More of those cranes might look the same as that, as the night goes on.
There's one on top of Trade Center, so far, so good.

Any others around?

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Response by Riversider
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Often when you hear about stuff like this, you later learn that someone was trying to save money. Read Gary Barnett is very concerned.

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Response by columbiacounty
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and sometimes you hear that someone made a mistake.

and sometimes you hear that despite best efforts and practices, something went wrong.

but the important thing is to speculate in advance of having any facts particularly if you speculate about conspiracy, collusion and graft.

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Response by Truth
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True, Riversider.

Chris Christie is angry at the Mayor of Atlantic City.

Christie told the residents to evacuate.
The dopey Mayor told them to stay in Atlantic City and use the local shelters, one of which is a school
located right next to the bay.
Now, they are stranded there, and Christie is giving his news conference; telling them "If any of you can still hear me, you have to stay until tomorrow morning. The worst is coming up in an hour and I can't put rescue teams in danger to go in and rescue you, especially in the darkness..."

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Response by huntersburg
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Of course, leave it to columbiacounty to give someone the benefit of the doubt on conspiracy, collusion and graft.

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Response by Consigliere
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And sometimes your mistake was unreasonable according to the eyes of the law.

Let's hope it stays up.

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Response by columbiacounty
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yes indeed---lets hope it stays up.

and lets stop judging with zero facts. its gross.

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Response by apt23
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Although CC, Barnett is know to play fast and loose with the law. At Rushmore, claiming a typo to avoid contractual obligations -- which 3 courts said was not a typo. And in this building, he took advantage of a loophole to get out of providing low income housing in the building. As insane as it is, the owner of the penthouse gets a $200,000 tax abatement.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49392086/?City_Scrutinizes_Low_Income_Tax_Breaks_for_Luxury_Condo

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Response by columbiacounty
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anything is possible, but consider whether or not this guy is so hands on that he is talking to the crane people and saying don't worry about tying it down. it just seems hard to believe. as i understand it, the crane downtown on the freedom center wasn't taken down and hasn't fallen down.

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Response by NYCMatt
about 13 years ago
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"Why didn't they take it down?"

Because it took WEEKS just to get it up there in the first place. Those giant cranes are actually carried up there, piece by piece, assembled, then disassembled after the building is done, and brought down ... again, piece by piece.

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Response by Riversider
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http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/10/30/trump-alleges-negligence-at-one57-crane-collapse-video/

The crane that collapsed at One57 was not tied down, Donald Trump told CNBC. According to Trump, he could see the crane from his window and it was moving violently in the wind before it collapsed. Trump is not involved with the One57 project.

“I know lots about cranes and lots about building, and I am looking at that crane right now,” Trump said. “I have a window that’s just about even with that crane and I was watching it yesterday, and they didn’t tie it down.”

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Response by columbiacounty
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well....that's that then.

you can count on trump to testify to the Truth.

next.

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Response by Consigliere
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NYC Matt, not an expert and don't claim to be but to say they had no clue this storm was coming is idiotic to say the least.

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