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suburbia & spiritual death (plateau)?

Started by hol4
over 13 years ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pFNdQDBy2rY caught it on netflix, doth i find jane jacobs slightly less annoying? poss
Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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Interesting.
Some people do like living in those developments.

Why doesn't that kid have at least a few friends there?
Where do his friends from school live? In the city?
Where does he go to school?
Don't his parents have any friends in the neighborhood?
Can't they have a backyard barbeque and invite the neighbors over?
Maybe there aren't that many kids living in the neighborhood.

What's wrong with the shopping at that neighborhood strip mall?
Can't they buy enough food there?

They all have driveways and cars.
Can't they drive to the nearest stores that have more of what they want for sale?
What do they want to buy?
Maybe a weekly drive into the city would be a nice family outing.
Hope they don't live in the suburbs of a high-crime city.

Where is this place, anyway?
I'm not springing for the DVD.

Anybody who has a nice big house to live in and heat in the winter, a/c in the summer, running hot and cold water , electricity should be thankful.

Would they rather live in the projects in Manhattan?

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Response by Riversider
over 13 years ago
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After seeing this, I don't know how anyone could criticize new construction Condos.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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Really, Riversider.
That guy in the documentary (if you can call it that) is upset that he can't see the mountains because there's a house in the way.
Walk, bike over to where the mountains can be seen.

He's rather be looking at the brick wall of the next building over or across the street at another
building, or Heaven forbid -- the projects.

There is some evident BS going on in the production of this "documentary":
using little kids for the purpose of trying to get viewer sympathy for their plight.
Their plight being that the little boy doesn't know anybody around there.
And he and the little girl are aware of the utility boxes on the lawn and which one is theirs and the other that belongs to their neighbor.
That is rehearsed, produced and directed B.S.

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Response by Bernie123
over 13 years ago
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Total propaganda trying to make the suburbs look like east Germany circa 1950. Agree with truth's points above. Both city and suburbs have pro & con. I prefer the city but could see myself also enjoying the suburbs.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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Bernie: You are correct, Sir!

I've done work on documentaries.
Although they were music-related, a documentary is not supposed to be directed.
They exploited those kids to get them to look miserable.
Probably bought them some ice-cream and then said:
"You stand here and she stands there. Look into the camera and say:"..."

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Response by Riversider
over 13 years ago
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Suburbs have their attraction but not if pictured in the movie. Take a drive along the Hudson valley,starting with Rockland and you see the charm.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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They went to someplace in Arizona, or I don't know where to film their B.S.
No leafy green,riverside towns in the suburbia pictured.
Expanses of identical homes and the miserable kids who live there, pining for a friend.
BULLLLSHIT!

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Response by KeithB
over 13 years ago
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This looks more like a critique of "subdivisions" than the suburbs.

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Response by Riversider
over 13 years ago
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I don't think it's a critique of suburbia as much as PUDs(planned urban developments). Much prefer a well built single family home on roughly 3/4 acre of land.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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That's what was built there and that's where people are living.
Perhaps that's what the parents of those little kids can afford.
It won't kill their souls to live in a subdivision or their family to shop at the strip-mall.

"A critique" doesn't require the manipulation of kids to make its point.

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Response by GraffitiGrammarian
over 13 years ago
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There are no trees. Humans evolved specifically to live with trees, and with the bio-diversity that lives in and around trees.

The develper did the usual thing -- plowed down all of nature in order to erect sterile junk.

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Response by Truth
over 13 years ago
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The developer built what he wanted and people have the choice not to live there.
I can't see from the video if it's a desert community, it looks like it may be.
They can get some trees planted in their yard if it's permitted in the community.

The manipulation of those kids is still disturbing.
I didn't hear them complaining about the lack of trees.

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