renting co-op without the board approval?

Yes, you can be evicted, and so can the owner. You might've moved anyway by the time the co-op can make that happen, though. It must be a real bargain for you to want the hassle.

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im dealing directly with the owner of the apartment, do all the process for the application takes like 5 weeks, i need a plce to live ASAP and the owner needs the money, so we want to make a deal between us.

if the board noticed that i moved in without their approval, what can happen? can they kick me out? or any other penalty?

or just the owner can be blacklisted

big mistake. don't do it.

but, for example i see and Ad for an apartment and the owner never told me about the board, besides to be kick out, nothing else could happen to me, right?

the eviction, is like they kicked me out and to the next day i have to be out of the apartment?

The "owner" doesn't actually own the unit, he owns share in a corporation that owns the building which entitle him to live in that unit. Your lease wouldn't be worth the paper it's written own since the unit "owner" doesn't have the right to rent it to you without the board's consent.

As for the eviction, guessing it all depends on who notices, how much the board cares, what type of building, how many units, where it is...etc. No one here can give you a real answer to your question.

What you're proposing is theoretically a form of squatting.

Chuck, maybe you are unfamiliar with coops?

No, not overnight. It's an involved process, once the co-op gets a court order to boot you out. See http://tenant.net/Court/Howcourt/72hour.html

If you want to rent again in NYC, you'd best avoid any involvement in Housing Court. Landlords and managing agents won't want to deal with you.

Then again, maybe all this usual- or worst-case stuff doesn't apply. It could be a loose/sloppy co-op, and the guy you're subletting from figures it's low-risk, and his saving the sublet fees overrides the potential for paying both his own and the co-op's lawyers should it come to that.

>the eviction, is like they kicked me out and to the next day i have to be out of the apartment?

At any time prior to 30 days of you living there, they can simply bar you at the door to the building and place your belongings from the apartment out on the front street or call movers to take it away and impound it.

Good point. I hadn't thought of the whole issue of how this guy actually gets moved in to the place.

Yes, what greensdale said above. This happened at my co-op -- a board member noticed someone moving in, and the police were called to keep the trespasser off the property. The movers had to take everything out and put in into storage, and the tenant/trespasser had to stay with friends until things got sorted out. Was a big mess. She was eventually approved by the board as she was from overseas and genuinely didn't seem to know the process. Not sure what the repercussions were for the owner.

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but, for example i see and Ad for an apartment and the owner never told me about the board, besides to be kick out, nothing else could happen to me, right?

the eviction, is like they kicked me out and to the next day i have to be out of the apartment?

why the focus on this apartment specifically? there are many where you woud'nt have to lie or break rules and can accommodate an immediate move in.

Jim Hones can help you find an apartment not involving lying or breaking rules.

hah, hah, hah.

oh look, C0lumbiaC0unty is here to defend Jim Hores. What a surprise.