Broker babble - my, how times have changed
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I was going to let this one go, but I was inspired by an old friend. I've asked a couple of times on this board, when will broker babble change? We know "Buy now or be priced out forever!" is dead. I haven't heard "If you're renting you're throwing your money away!" in some time. I've been wondering, when will we here "It's a buyer's market! Now's a great time to buy!" Well, I got my first answer. Here's a quote from an email a broker sent me recently, following up from an open house I attended: "So let me know if you'd like me to do a search for you, it's a great time to buy, flexible and motivated sellers, more inventory to choose from and still low interest rates." I realize this is only an anecdote, but I just had to share.
It's a standard broker pitch. If you're careless enough to leave your contact info at an open house (that is, if you go to open houses just fo fun), you;ll be getting solicitations like this forever. I left my email at some open house over almost 2 years ago, and boy, did I emails! Tens of them.
So relax. Nothing has changed. Buyer's market is in the eyes of the beholder.
westelle, I too, have been going to open houses for over two years, and I wasn't getting follow up emails until the latter part of 07 (except for the short time I spent looking in Brooklyn). What I got was a lot of haughty attitude along the lines of "you need this apartment more than we need you." The follow up emails started to arrive at the same time the transactions started to slow and the brokers started acting nervous. The "standard broker pitch," at least in my experince in 06 and early 07, was along the lines of the first two quotes I mentioned. This was a definite departure.
By the way, if you haven't already, you may want to try a nice Belgian white. It's a good introduction to better beers for wine enthusiasts.
It's a normal practice of not-so-successful brokers to besiege a potential buyer with this kind of stuff. Some were sending me listings for months, asking me that if I go to such-and-such open house, please put them down as a co-broker. It was fun trashing all that stuff.
Beer: why would I want to be introduced to beer (that I just don;t like as a product) instead of just enjoyng my wine that I already like? But thank you for attention/recommendation.
Another beer for her to try is a Framboise Lambic. ONe of the best dessert drinks around.
I like WINE. And a raspberry drink?! My turn: you try this terrific Georgian (as in a country, not Atlanta Georgia) called Kindzmareuli. After you've learned to pronounce it, of course, and then found where to buy it.
I haven't been to any open houses recently (I own now) but can just imagine all the spinning going on as to reasons why to buy. I'm just posting to say that I'm a wine drinker (preference for very dry)but will never pass on a nice Hoegaarden. Who says "girls" can't know their beers? :)
Found a few places in Jersey that sell Kindzmareuli. Most of the tasting notes seemed to indicate a sweetness which is pretty much the opposite of what I look for, although I am a sucker for a sweeter wine with very spicy dishes.
Back to the OT, I saw a (national) TV spot recently, I believe it was for the National Association of Realtors, and they were definitely championing the "Now is the best time to buy"
TheFed: try Khvanchkara. Very dry.
AvUWS, ummmmm, raspberry...
westelle, I am familiar with the practice, but this was a broker with an exclusive listing in a higher-end building. Not one of the top 4 firms, but not one of the bottom-feeders either. I've met dozens of brokers, and I've gotten follow ups before, but none with a specific mention of "flexible and motivated sellers, more inventory to choose from." Like I said, it was just an anecdote, but it was a marked change for me.
The Peche is also nice, but not as delicious as the Framboise.
tenemental: On the other hand, I get tons of solicitations to sell. Again, that's what brokers do. I do think that everything in life would be much clearer/simpler without any middleman, RE brokers included. Now you have even celebrity real estate broker. Stupid times.
If you want to read any omen into brokerspeak, you of course ca. I wouldn't.
forced_to_register, Hoegaarden was what I had in mind. I used to enjoy Cellis White, for the domestic take. I knew Coors would ruin it. Some bars are offering a Japanese "Belgian" white called Hitachino (sp?) Nest. It's very expensive, and I can't say I particularly care for it.
Now, if only I had a nice terrace on which to enjoy some of these beers. Someone should start a thread...
Like I said westelle, an anecdote, not an omen.
I was told very early in life to watch out for girls who don't drink beer. It has been wise advice.
My wife loves wine and loved great beer. Now she can't have either. Beer because she found out she is allergic to Gluten and Wine because she is expecting. (But there is a bottle of an '84 Barolo waiting for the happy day.)
Westelle, there are some truly outstanding beers out there. You should try them, some pair better with some foods than wine.
JuiceMan, amen to that.
AvUWS, congratulations.
If you're ever in Alphabet City, I'd recommend Grape and Grain (E. 6th btw B & C), Zum Schneider (Ave C and 7th - Bavarian, of course, not Belgian) and nearby legendary DBA (1st Ave btw 2nd and 3rd).
I'm in the West 60s all the time. Any suggestions?
BTW AvUWS -- decent nonalcoholic wine from Ariel vinyards. No it ain't grape juice, but actually dealcholized vino that has been fermented and filtered. Saved my wife during her long wine drought during pregnancy and allowed me to indulge guilt free! :)
Avuws--risotteria in the village has gluten-free beer. (Perhaps not "great" beer tho..)
nyg - Thanks, have been there. A little out of the way, but worth it! We haven't tried the beer yet, but the pizza and risottos are great.
markznyc - Also thanks, I passed it along to the mrs.
Tenemental - Been to DBA recently and had some great stuff. Was there with a friend who is a beer expert (seriously! He keeps his own database on what he has tasted and it includes some 10,000 brews from some 3,000 breweries.) he chose a fantastic Belgian beer for me but I can't remember the name. He looked at their board of what was available disappointedly since there was nothing on it he had not yet tried. I don't think we have anything remotely like that on the UWS and I don't think there is anything in the 60's worth the trip be it bar or restaurant.
Re:beer. Do you guys allow that someone just has the taste that differs from yours? Thank you.
We lived all over the world, my husband tried every beer on earth and I did too %u2014 I DON"T LIKE IT. May I, please? Please? I'm so so sorry.
It's pathetic. I have to explain my beer dislikes on a REAL ESTATE BOARD. This is really boring.
JuiceMaN; you were warned right. Girls must love beer, preferably drunk from a bottle while cheering on some fat baseball player. I might become that in 15-20 years. Oh dear.
"He looked at their board of what was available disappointedly since there was nothing on it he had not yet tried."
Wow.
For those who don't know, that board is HUGE. It not only contains the names of the beers, but the date the keg was tapped so you know how fresh it is.
Did I hear someone say they don't like beer?
AvUWS, just remembered a good one that's a little closer to home for you, Valhalla on 9th Ave btw 53rd and 54th.
westelle talk to me
Try Saison Dupont - a Belgian farmhouse ale - comes in a corked bottle. Expensive but amazingly good and not too heavy.
Cafe BXL and House of Brews are good options in Midtown West.
Not so fast westelle, the most desirable women in the world can drink PBR from a plastic cup with as much class as sipping Veuve Clicquot from a Faberge flute. Maybe you should broaden your horizons a little?
Have you tried Pabst. Best in a can. Used to be out of Milwaukee, but I think has moved to San Antonio.
Fresh, light a bit bitter and easy on the purse (or wallet). Can be found downtown. Very difficult to find in Belgium. Cheers.
Pairs well with a trucker's cap.
Tenemental - re: DBA - I know. But I am used to it. It was his first time at DBA (mine too). He searches these things out on blogs and websites and led us there.
But I am used to ihim not finding something new. I have seen him before find something he never had before. He gets all excited and whips out a pad to take notes on the label and then the tasting, all for his database. He even does that for something he has had before so he can compare entries.
The name is terrible, but Burp Castle keeps a tremendous inventory, and, kitsch of the monk's robes aside, the "quiet, contemplative drinking" thing is really nice from time to time. I brought some friends who got a little too loud once and they were promptly shushed. I was also there with two friends just at opening one time and caught one of the "monks" before he was in character. He must have known he had a boring night ahead and was trying to have some yuks while he could, he had us tears with a couple of stories that wouldn't be appropriate here.
Just east are two other bars with similar offerings, I think owned by the same people. 7th St btw 2nd and 3rd Aves (same block as Mc Soreley's).
If only we could somehow merge this w/ UrbanDigs' pizza thread.