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Townhouse Auction at 419 W. 145th St

Started by afinelyne
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2012
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This looks pretty good & thought I'd post for anyone interested: http://properties.esd.ny.gov/419W145.html
Response by Pawn_Harvester
over 12 years ago
Posts: 321
Member since: Jan 2009

What looks good about it? It's a broken down SRO with no CNH and a history of squaters, according to the DOB. Ever see the movie Money Pit, from the 1980s?

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Response by afinelyne
over 12 years ago
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It's the location. 145th Street in that area has picked up tremendously over the last 6 months, with more businesses looking for space in that location - and co ops selling quite well. If a person knows what they're doing - I'm sure it would be quite a nice buy.

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Response by scarednycgal
over 12 years ago
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That's a good price for a brownstone, but will take A LOT of money to renovate!

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Response by MIBNYC
over 12 years ago
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Probably gonna take 500k to renovate

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Response by Pawn_Harvester
over 12 years ago
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What are you talking about? You think you can renovate a shell, that was used as an office before it became a vagrant hotel and and SRO, for $500,000??? Let's just say you go for the cheapest renovation possible:
$200/ sq foot * 4,000 sq foot = $800,000. PLUS anything you need to do to rebuild the systems, add windows, etc. $1,000,000 is the bare minimum.

PLUS the legal cost and waiting time to get the CNH, which is a effing nightmare.

People have lost everything on houses like this. Anyone who is not a real easy estate professional should stay away.

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Response by Triple_Zero
over 12 years ago
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How about for a do-it-yourselfer? I've read some great stories about people picking up brownstones and townhouses on the cheap and then restoring them over decades, coming out multi-millionaires when it's time to sell.

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Response by Pawn_Harvester
over 12 years ago
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I think that had more to do with the general increase in home prices in Harlem. 20 years ago, you could have bought a TH in good condition for $100,000. Now that would be $1,500,000 - $2,000,000 (depending on the neighborhood - below 125 and west of 5th is most valuable). The easy money has been made.

If you are buying something like this as a DIYer, you better have friends who are licensed plumbers, electricians, etc. This house does not have a CofO - so the DOB will be all over it before they issue one. MUST MUST MUST be up to code.

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Response by GettingOut
over 12 years ago
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Response by NWT
over 12 years ago
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There're lots of romantic books from the 1970s-1980s about renovating rowhouses, and maybe still people on brownstoner.com who did it on the cheap and aren't sick of talking about it.

I know a few people who did it. E.g., the couple who bought a house in Ft. Greene in 1984 for less than $100K. It's almost done. Their application for a Certificate of No Harassment got turned down for no reason that I can tell. Somewhere in all the pages the remaining tenant said she had to clean her bathroom herself; maybe that was why. They paid for all the work out of income, getting just a baby mortgage after 15 years or so. I'm pretty sure they did it as a project rather than a money-making venture.

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Response by semerun
over 12 years ago
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I live in the neighborhood. I am a cheerleader for the neighborhood. That said, this property is not for the inexperienced. It will take a very special buyer to make this "quite a nice buy". While the opening price is reasonable- an informed buyer will be weary about biding much higher.

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