Brooklyn is on the map!

Well guess what: You're STILL on Long Island!

And Marty, really now - we all love you & more than appreciate your tireless trumpeting, so there's no reason for you to be suddenly shy (you...shy?!?) & have to resort to hiding behind the screen name "Juliet" (of all names). Really now!!!

This is the NYC Flooding Map? Staten Island is also on it post Sandy.

Yes, flooded with boosterism!

Picture it: A cloned army of Marty cheerleaders, all wearing little skirts &...uh, wait, maybe not...I haven't eaten yet...oy...never mind...

Funniest post in a long time. Marty Markowitz? Yeah all you hip Bklyn eateries, bars, galleries, clubs, and boutiques, and all you pioneering hipsters -- it was Marty Markowitz! Bow down before he who saw cool before hip was cool. Marty Markowitz! Bwahahahahahah

Yup!!
http://www.bkmag.com/binary/4e37/1345048573-markowitz.jpg

this is indeed hilarious. the op is probably a michigan native and now lives in cool, hip brookland!! o

Blacks In Crooklyn are now saying ( I SEE WHITE PEOPLE )

Brooklyn was never off the map.

--For the past several years, there's been a strong migration from Manhattanites into Brooklyn--

Great. Hopefully they'll take their double-wide strollers, gigantic dogs and whining, over-coddled children with them and leave Manhattan to the real New Yorkers.

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/11678-why-dont-more-people-live-in-brooklyn

On the map for artisanal cheese eating, microbrew beer drinking, spaced-out-with-that-stupid-smile while Schwinn riding, pork pie hat, wife beater & sun dress wearing pierced & tattooed hipsters, heralding from Crotch Itch Junction & who the hell knows where else.

Tell them there's a new organic vegan band playing on the lawn in Flatbush Gardens at midnight, & see how fast they'll pedal down Foster Avenue I("Foster! Wow, yeah, like the beer!!! But there's no bike path man!"), where they'll be greeted by the natives, ever so happy to see them, with open er, "arms".

Any of them lucky enough to make it out unscathed should be directed to the even safer haven of Livonia Avenue ("Livonia! Just like in Michigan, man! Come on, let's go! I heard someone say something about 'Public Housing' - they must be a new band, too! Don't worry Gretchen, I'll help you get your dress out of the bike chain! I can hardly wait!!!")

If Brooklyn were really what the cheerleaders think it is, it wouldn't need these cheerleaders to explain that it's good.

You move there because you couldn't afford manhattan. sorry.

(I'm proud to say that I escaped Brooklyn... even tried it again... way overrated).

>(I'm proud to say that I escaped Brooklyn... even tried it again... way overrated).

We are equally proud of you.

ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK !!! Great Flick

walpurgis, please. Don't get me started on the retro Schwinns and pork-pie hats.

Migration from Manhattan to Brooklyn is mostly driven by real estate and taxes. Brooklyn is simply cheaper and the closest substitute to a Manhattan setting..sometimes.

Migration is also due to the desire of some to have less busy, lower key alternative to manhattan. Yes, you get more space for the money in BK, but in the hottest areas, it's maybe 20% more for your money. (Ex $800 PPSF vs 1000, roughly).

Yes, you may have to commute farther if you work in manhattan, and there are far fewer fancy amenities (whole foods, apple store, museums). But it's the laid back vibe that is also drawing people. Another reason why people move to BK when they had kids - they don't want to raise kids in manhattan and BK is a better option to suburbs or other boroughs.

(I say this as someone who understands the appeal of Brooklyn but is not a crazy BK booster like the OP.)

Sp21, I agree, it is very important to be near an Apple Store.

Yes, you may have to commute farther if you work in manhattan, and there are far fewer fancy amenities (whole foods, apple store, museums). But it's the laid back vibe that is also drawing people. Another reason why people move to BK when they had kids - they don't want to raise kids in manhattan and BK is a better option to suburbs or other boroughs.

No, I think people move to Brooklyn because the extra bedroom(s) are out of reach in Manhattan. Not to say there aren't desirable Brooklyn neighborhoods, some with plenty of unique charm. Only saying that if one is moving from Manhattan to Brooklyn is most likely a money decision.

The why are there so many famous writers, artists and musicians in Brooklyn? I am talking about many of them that could perfectly well live in Manhattan...

then I meant

Juliet/Marty - where are you?!? After knowing all too well what comments this would generate?!? Having a real good laugh, eh? A real "Post & Run", eh?

Speaking of cycling, please be careful you don't get hit by a group of Grand Pricks...

P.S: Never mind the porkpie hats: Today I saw what looked like Porky the Pig HIMSELF riding a bike.

He actually appeared to have a pig's texture, his pink skin glistening under the broiling sun. He was certainly sweating like one, pedaling furiously as if escaping the slaughterhouse.

My cravings for a bacon cheeseburger immediately vaporized...

>Juliet/Marty - where are you?!? After knowing all too well what comments this would generate?!? Having a real good laugh, eh? A real "Post & Run", eh?

Same as the other link I sent.

Walpurgis, that is some good usage of Canadian.

lol!!!

For the renters who moved from Manhattan to purchase in Brooklyn because of their financial restrictions, the above comments are true:
Buying in Williamsburg because they can't afford that third bedroom, in Manhattan.

I didn't move to Williamsburg, so never saw any porkpie hats nor hipsters (only when I went to Williamsburg to go out to eat.)

I moved to Brooklyn for the fresh air that I needed and I found in Bay Ridge.
Nice restaurants and the best manicurist I ever had.
Half-an-hour to JFK airport (very important for me for business and leisure travel).
The living expenses there were far less than Manhattan but I didn't need to be defined by the neighborhood I lived in.
It was a great, safe neighborhood to live in and I enjoyed my time there.
I've since moved on but will still visit Bay Ridge whenever I'm back in NYC.

Thought you all might appreciate this ancient, [way] pre-gentrification anecdote, written & experienced by yours truly. It's the 2nd comment, of course.

Enjoy!

http://www.dailyheights.com/2006/07/08/roof-sex-in-prospect-heights-not-news-to-us/

walpurgis: "Up on the Roof".

I'm in Cardiff and here in Wales there's a local terminology for that activity.

Truth, I'm sure many have wailed on many a Wales rooftop.

My foray into that category many - ahem - "moons" ago included a rooftop stairway bulkhead at the Bayview Houses in Canarsie & cross town on another at a Shore Road building in Bay Ridge. Yep - Brooklyn coast to coast!

walpurgis: lol!
Brooklyn coast to coast, with the most!
Did you watch Walenda walk the rope over the Grand Canyon on Sunday?
Every step of the way: "Oh,Jesus...Thank-you Jesus!... Jesus, Jesus, Jesus !".

the only places I'd ever live in manhattan are the west and east village (where ive lived for 15 years). The west village is ridiculously, insanely expensive, and even if i could afford it i would like an adult sized apartment or townhouse. The east village is still lovely but has mostly become a dorm with high rents and sub-par/no housing stock. The rest of manhattan feels a bit like a shopping mall/office park/camp for transient professionals/eurotrash/people over 75.

brooklyn feels like the east/west village. a network of communities. I'd rather live there.
how about that for a reason.

>brooklyn feels like the east/west village. a network of communities. I'd rather live there.
how about that for a reason.

Very nice reason. & I assume you aren't talking about Williamsburg or DUMBO.

By the way, C0lumbia C0unty isn't on the map.

SE, why?

Hi Truth - sorry; I just saw your post now.

No, I didn't catch the Walenda walk, but coincidentally I just read in the Times about a video commercial costing over 1MM to produce (a record amount), promoting the future Macklowe tower - featuring Philippe Petit.

Interesting article - "Massive Luxury Overdose", the title of a 1991 album by Army of Lovers, comes to mind.

Enjoy!

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/realestate/selling-park-avenue-condos-at-250000-a-minute.html

walpurgis: Enjoyed!

"The why are there so many famous writers, artists and musicians in Brooklyn?"

1) Writers are poor. Even "famous" ones.

2) Who are the so many famous musicians? FAR more in Manhattan?
Unless you mean the poor ones...

Is Bjork poor? Norah Jones? They make millions in royalties. And Sarah Jessica Parker‚ Martin Amis, Paul Auster? Are they poor? Gimme a break...

Bjork is still alive?

Who is Martin Amis? Paul Auster?

This is your alist?

I think I proved my point...

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What a troll!

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/15569-garbage-transfer-facility-on-upper-east-side?page=2

"What a troll!"

No, you just made an awful, awful case.

Describing her bottom, Jasmine says to her sister, "Can you believe I had to live in Brooklyn?"

I have nothing against Brooklyn. I'm just sayin' it is a quote from the movie.

A broker once told me, it is funny how the people that can't afford Brooklyn are the ones that bash Brooklyn.

Never mind all that - I'd like to know what happened to Juliet!

Oh wait - just remembered - she fell off a balcony last night...

Walpurgis, most people want to distinguish themselves away and above NYCMatt.

So what are you saying - the poor thing jumped willingly to get away from your nemesis?!? To "DIsinguish" - or "EXtinguish"?!? LOL!!!

I'll say this much, Huntersburg/Greensdale: The fun just never ends around here - & you were right: My "farewell" message, which inadvertently posted twice was indeed a sign I'd be back. I'll just have to face up to being relegated to gray, just as I'm sure you & others have. And post on you all do (& on, & on....)

I also noticed that your Greensdale handle was grayed out shortly after mine was. SE must've been doing a massive sweep! A few others were as well. I tried looking for your reaction to your new color (as well as from others, some of whom I'm sure were rejoicing), but couldn't find anything. I'm sure it doesn't bother you one bit in the least.

Anyway, I missed all of you - so who the @#$% was I kidding?!? Nice to be back!

Oh, walpurgis.
This is just a RE website discussion section.
The real trolls are the alkies who post drunken comments, day and night.
They are socially maladroit misfits with no real social lives.

THIS is what I missed, Truth! Ultra LOL!!!

Please, commentary from our resident histrionic narcissistist who has such a fabulous life with great handbags, travel, etc. except we know quite a bit about your life, including seeing those dreary pictures of the apartment you sold not so long ago. sad.

"A broker once told me, it is funny how the people that can't afford Brooklyn are the ones that bash Brooklyn."

Once again, when is a broker ever right?

Sort of insane given that Brooklyn is the cheaper option. It is the folks who have to settle for Brooklyn who pretend to "hate" manhattan.

It is called sour grapes.

We like visiting and working in Manhattan but we love living in Brooklyn.
Somewhereelse, you should visit once and trust me you would fall in love with Brooklyn as well. When my wife first brought up the idea of moving to Brooklyn, I thought she was crazy as I had never been here before. Having an open mind, I visited Brooklyn and eventually fell in love with the place. The neighborhood feeling you get in Brooklyn you would never get in Manhattan.

"Somewhereelse, you should visit once"

Ruh-roh!

Somewhereelse was born and bred in Brooklyn, he was chased out because he was very scared of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Now because he's in the same boro as Eataly and is advocating the marine transfer station to be conveniently away from his neighborhood, he is too good to return.

But Argo, your post was ridiculous.

I tend to agree with Riversider - money is the only factor to move to Brooklyn.

I recently looked at Park Slope and it seemed kinda run down and overpriced despite a decent elementary school. I think for 1.3 mm, I rather live in a smaller place in Manhattan or a top suburb in Westchester/CT/NJ than Brooklyn.

f1champ, I'm not a particular fan of Park Slope, especially its 2013 version, but if it looked kinda run down to you, you weren't in it ... you were in "Park Slope Adjacent". Or much more likely "Park Slope Adjacent Adjacent".

alanhart - I was in the main drag section near the famous elementary school

I take it you mean PS 321 - I was just at the weekend flea market there today! Very busy.

Yesterday, while walking my dogs down President Street towards Prospect Park West, a rather, er "hefty" woman (at least I think it was), was huffing & puffing on a bike, with the nasiest look on her face.

As she passed, I was she was wearing a shirt, which, emblazoned on the back, was, "ONE LESS CAR".

Indeed, I thought - but one more cow on a bike, blissfully unaware of the huge quantities of methane she produces as she bellows her way into the park. Prime grazing area, you know!

Apparently EVERYTHING in the Slope has to be a nauseatingly political, environmental, agricultural or culinary statement...

As she passed, I SAW...

That's a nice story Wp.
More important however, did you happen to see Aboutready? http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/36087-buy-now-or-be-priced-out-forever

No problem; hopefully you got a chuckle out of it. Another day in Vegan-Vag Land...the Saturday Farmers Market is even more hysterical, with a dealer trying to unload what appears to be the same morning glory vine he put out in the Spring. It's essentially a tree now; inevitably, it'll be marked down like poor Magilla Gorilla.

Did I see About Ready? If you meant the post, well, all I can say is it's beyond obvious you're very much in love with each another. Congratulations, & perhaps Truth can serve as Justice of the Peace when the time comes.

If you meant in person, I have no idea - unless, of course, you're trying to say that's who I saw on the bike?!? Boy, you really ARE in love!!! ;)

>If you meant in person, I have no idea - unless, of course, you're trying to say that's who I saw on the bike?!? Boy, you really ARE in love!!! ;)

No, I was not saying that. Aboutready gets her groceries delivered, she does not ride a bike.

Maybe Purgie saw La Vaca Vieja herself.

And you, "Dear Hart", can be the ring bearer!

I am starting to get worried.

Why?

Relax - your wedding gift - appropriately enough - will be a 4 "poster" bed.

I've already ordered it, & will let you know when it's - ahem - "about ready".

Really now - as you can see, there's absolutely nothing to worry about. Truth has already been notified, & will offer her services gratis as her gift to you. If you have no problem with her showing up sporting only an old girdle, she doesn't either.

As I heard you're registered at Jack's 99 Cents Store, I'll spread the word. You'll both have quite a truseau!

Aboutready was spotted at 720 Greenwich Street.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/bogus-brooklyn-panhandler-pistol-whips-tourist-article-1.1427279

Another house sells for hundred of thousands above asking price in BedStuy. This beauty need baths and kitchen. http://bktothefullest.blogspot.com/2013/08/stuy-heights-record-breaker-just-closed.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nycha-tenants-fingerprinted-bloomberg-article-1.1428791

"Somewhereelse, you should visit once"

"Ruh-roh!"

Born, raised, lived there again for 4 years.

Tourist, you are out of your league...

"I tend to agree with Riversider - money is the only factor to move to Brooklyn."

Bingo

"The neighborhood feeling you get in Brooklyn you would never get in Manhattan."

Kansas has that, too.

"ruh-roh!"

why you gotta love ah.

I moved to the city about six years ago, and for a long time I could never understand why anyone would choose to live in Brooklyn if they could afford Manhattan. I have a large number of friends who live in Brooklyn in the software industry. They all make plenty of money, and none of them have any kids. They could all choose to live in whatever neighborhood they want, and they all live in Brooklyn. I even have a venture capitalist friend who is single, and chooses to live in Park Slope.

Eventually, I started going there to see what all the fuss was about, and, I actually liked some of the neighborhoods better than Manhattan neighborhoods, particularly because it was more laid back. I've spent the last year WANTING to live in Brooklyn instead of Manhattan (and, in fact, will be closing on a place this coming week). Money wasn't even close to a factor-- I've made plenty of it, and can spend millions on a place.

That said, I do appreciate the *slightly* better economics of Brooklyn, and I know plenty of people do move to Brooklyn, in part, because they like the economics better than the neighborhoods they like in Manhattan. But that doesn't mean people can't afford to live in Manhattan-- if you can afford $5,000 a month to rent a 3BR in Cobble Hill, or $1.5M for a small row house in "Park Slop Adjacent" (which also will generally have 3BR if it's a one family), you can cram your family of 4 into a Manhattan two bedroom-- and I'm sure many people do, because they do prefer Manhattan.

But some people find other things more important than living in Manhattan-- for some people it's the space. For some people it's the schools, and for some people (like me), it's the more laid back, better neighborhoods. But I think it's clear to almost everyone reading this thread that most of the people in prime Brooklyn could choose to live in Manhattan if they wanted to, yet choose not to do so.

Of course, this is pretty obvious to most people. I think you all intuitively get that there are millions of people who *could* afford to live in NYC but don't. And often, it's because they choose not to-- I know many people who don't like New York, they'd rather have a big mansion in the suburbs, or a big farm in the middle of nowhere.

People have different likes, different priorities, and so on. Everyone gets that, even the people here arguing that Manhattan is the only place to be. Ergo, this thread is really only about feeding the trolls.

I'm that guy at the zoo who feeds the animals when all the signs say not to do so-- the trolls are now fed.

>I'm that guy at the zoo who feeds the animals when all the signs say not to do so

Really?

>I have a large number of friends who live in Brooklyn in the software industry.

What parts of Brooklyn are you talking about?

What's the point of this post? Not news worthy by any means

The VMA Music Awards were held tonight at the Barclays Center.
I've commented on another thread about the arena and my positive opinion of the great acoustics and sight-lines there.

I enjoyed the show and the best part was the Katy Perry finale segment, live from DUMBO with the Brooklyn Bridge as a beautiful backdrop.
As far as I know, the residents of the Building where we went to watch the finale, were all happy to have a nice view
of the performance.