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Sale at 90 Sterling Place #2 - No Pets Allowed

Started by jerilynnbrown
about 12 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2010
Discussion about 90 Sterling Place #2
This listing fails to mention that the building does not allow pets... an important factor to just leave out.
Response by Flutistic
about 12 years ago
Posts: 516
Member since: Apr 2007

Thank you for letting us know! Isn't that so frustrating, when the agent just doesn't mention a no pets policy? Or the pets policy at all?

Grrrrr......

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Response by deanc
about 12 years ago
Posts: 407
Member since: Jun 2006

sure but with only 4 units in the building this position can be changed with yourself and one other co-op shareholders vote at an EG (or 3 if you have the smaller shares)

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Response by Truth
about 12 years ago
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The moral of this story is that potential buyers should ask, specifically any questions that would be deal-breakers.
deanc makes a good point: only 4 units in the Building. A no-pet policy is the least of what can be changed there (for better or worse).

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Response by Flutistic
about 12 years ago
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The idea that the policy could be changed is cold comfort if you already have a pet.

I spoke with the agent, who is both a cat and a dog owner herself, and she says she is going to change the ads.

Some agent coaches advise agents to never reveal a no-pet policy in advertising--Greg Young at Broker Heaven specifically advises this.

The reason is, he believes some people will get rid of their pet(s), even just drop them off at the shelter, if they love the apartment enough.

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Response by unsure
about 12 years ago
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Greg Young would know. Anyone who would drop their pet at a shelter for a pretty apartment is on the same substandard moral level as a man who would suggest such a thing. What a horrible man.

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Response by Flutistic
about 12 years ago
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Pardon my poor confused writing, Young certainly didn't advocate putting pets in a shelter on the video I saw.

He only advocated never putting "no pets allowed" into an apartment listing ad--which I think is completely wrongheaded advice--on the grounds that people may decide to get rid of their pets afterall, you never know?, and because it's apparently OK in his book to be a little deceptive just to get people in the door, and then you can show them something else that allows pets.

Um, I'm not sure my clarification makes this sound any better...... I stopped watching his videos after that offensive one, though.

If you ever wonder why agents are the way they are, if you saw the kind of training most of them get, you'd see why. It's pathetic, really.

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Response by unsure
about 12 years ago
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I've heard the same. One broker told me she doesn't put "no pets" in the ad because the buyer might come and engage her as their buy-side broker. Which is ass-holery. It is time consuming and faith-sapping to drag oneself to open houses only to find out you wouldn't be able to purchase the place anyway. I had read a lot of broker-bashing here before I started looking and I thought it was so harsh. At this point, I see where it comes from. I know there are good professionals out there, but I've been stunned by the amount of bottom feeders with briefcases I've met in my search. Some of them are just incompetent but others are downright dishonest and deceptive. I see why the good ones stand to make so much money. They are rare and valuable.

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Response by ab_11218
about 12 years ago
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Member since: May 2009

"ass-holery" love it. it should apply to 90% of agents out there.

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Response by midageguy
about 12 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2011

As I have complained about before, this is truly an annoying habit of agents and brokers. Leaving it out intentionally only irritates people. And I think not being explicit on the policy only makes things worse - for example "pet friendly" when the dog weight restriction is actually only 15 lbs. Or the policy of one building, I believe the Landmark on East 59th, 2 dog limit "whose combined weight cannot exceed 40 lbs." I am not complaining about the policy - just put it in the listing. No one is going to give up their dog for an apartment. Come on.
I also wish SE had a filter for "allows dogs" (Agentfolio/Buyfolio does).

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Response by yikes
about 12 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2012

SE should have a filter for pets, or no pets, definitely.

Much as pet-owners are very sensitive that their pets be accomodated--some humans have severe allergies to pets and want not to be rendered ill based on the prioritization of someone's animal.

The proliferation of fake "service dogs" is inconsiderate to these humans. There will come a time when this comes to a head. Is someone's desire to have their pets with them at all times more important than the health of some humans?

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Response by Flutistic
about 12 years ago
Posts: 516
Member since: Apr 2007

Fortunately, there are plenty of "no pets" buildings in NYC. Anyone who wants to live in such a building can easily find one. I've never heard of such a person being unable to find an apartment.

Re: agents, yes the good ones are worth every dollar, but the bad ones? OMG I have had it up to here, really really had it.

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Response by Truth
about 12 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2009

Flutistic: How true. I've had experience with the good and the bad. The bad make the process so frustrating.

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Response by walpurgis
about 12 years ago
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Truth: Happy New Year! But I see you're gray again...:(

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Response by walpurgis
about 12 years ago
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Made me remember this - even sicker & sadder:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/nyregion/03debark.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Beyond unbelievable.

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Response by yikes
about 12 years ago
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poor dogs--their owners should move to the country if their dogs bark incessantly and disturb neighbors--when a human acquires a dog, they should consider their responsibilities to other humans and to the dog--if they cant be responsible, they shouldnt get a dog.

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Response by Truth
about 12 years ago
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Thanks, walpurgis and the same to you.
I'm not aware of any period of time ( since I was greyed after that Thanksgiving weekend after my chat with huntersburg, while being trolled by c.c.) during which I was un-greyed.

I don't know, nor do I care. It makes no difference to me. It never did make a difference to me. It shouldn't make any difference to you. I much prefer the new Zillow approach to managing the streeteasy discussion threads: most of the abusive trolling no longer exists. (there's only one troll left, who insists on trolling for arguments and she is making herself more of a fool, every day.)

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Response by walpurgis
about 12 years ago
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Well, that's good news to hear.

Black or grey - you'll always be good ol' Truth to me (& that's the TRUTH!)

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Response by MIBNYC
about 12 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2012

But Mother-in laws are allowed ??? F$#@$%%

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Response by Truth
about 12 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2009

MIBNYC: Your feelings about that seem to be shared by many and may be the reason why homes with a separate
apartment are referred to as having a: "Mother-in-law suite".

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Response by walpurgis
about 12 years ago
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Whatever semblance of sanity my poor father had left evaporated almost immediately after his in-laws moved in with us.

We unfortunately didn't have an "In Law" suite - just a semi-finished basement.

I'll have to recount this wonderful episode of my family history one day; it could've made a great movie segment or sitcom episode.

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