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ADA Adaptable / ADA Accesible Renovation Question

Started by PZ1022
over 8 years ago
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We are in a process of renovating kitchen and bathroom in a 650sf studio in Midtown East in Manhattan. Our bathroom is too small to be ever ADA accessible and the building does not allow expanding wet over wet areas beyond the original layout. Our architect insists that the renovation has to be ADA adaptable - this effects our new kitchen layout and storage space. Is it truly so? Does our renovation of the kitchen and bathroom have to be ADA adaptable if neither of us are handicapped and the size of the bathroom and building's rules prevent it from being ADA accessible. Please advise, thank you!
Response by Primer05
over 8 years ago
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If there is no way to make it compliant then you do not have to do it

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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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PZ, For the bathroom, keep the fixtures and walls where they are. Essentially you are re-tiling etc. This surely does not require any ADA compliance as per my experience.

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Response by ph41
over 8 years ago
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Agree with merger - as long as you don't change the position of the fixtures you don't have to make it ADA compliant.
The rules can be very stupid - I relocated a closet door from a hallway into my bedroom. The new closet door had to be 36" ADA compliant even though the existing bedroom door is 30", not ADA!!!

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Response by ph41
over 8 years ago
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Sorry - Mercer

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 8 years ago
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Make sure the bathroom door in that 6th floor walk-up studio is 36 wide - because they can make it up 5 flights of stairs but can't squeeze through a 30" doorway.......

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Response by RE10023
over 8 years ago
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PZ, we did a renovation where we moved the plumbing around. We had to have 30" inches of space for the shower and the toilet, despite the fact that the original (non-moved doorway) was only 28" wide. As has been mentioned, and as I understand it, if you don't move any of the plumbing placement or the doorway, you are fine.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 8 years ago
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PZ, If you are moving the fixture by an 1 inch or 2, the architect can show the new plan as existing as no one actually measures before or after.

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Response by pw036
over 8 years ago
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We were told that unless bathroom fixtures are being replaced in the same rough-in, we had to comply with all ADA requirements for bathrooms OR use one of the NYC bathroom prototypes from the link below:
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/buildings/rules/1_RCNY_1101-01.pdf

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