Renovation?
Started by Dickens
over 3 years ago
Posts: 104
Member since: Mar 2014
Discussion about 104 Bedford Street #5D
Is it me or is this a horrible renovation? The window frames, moldings, etc. needed to be refinished and sealed with lacquer to show off their natural wood grain, not “stripped,” like it’s a country barn. And the bathroom is for some reason done in the 80s style that doesn’t match anything else in the apartment or the building itself.
It says "renovation started," which seems to acknowledge it is not remotely finished.
Good memories, I loved living on Bedford Street... Especially when my kids were at PS 6.
"There is a new Fujitsu central air system, original window casements have been stripped and kitchen hook-ups, upgraded gas line and new circuit breaker box are in place. This is a stellar opportunity to design a kitchen, closet, workspace and laundry to your own specifications. "
Bathroom is not 80s style. Porcelain tiles didn't come in high-end veined marble look till 10-15 year back. The sink is a little funky as it seems that they are forced to use very small one. Perhaps that is what you are calling 80s style.
In fact, this type of book-end porcelain tiles are only available in last 5 years or so.
300 - hard to say if those are high end bookends or not without looking closely. There are lots of crappy tile products that are basically dot matrix printed.
The sink is trendy. You can see the same things at Boffi right now
I can tell by looking at the contrast between gray veins and white background. These are large format thin tiles. Only comes good quality. Small formats come in many different qualities.
Looks like Mrs George made you learn all about tiles in your fancy “nowhere” reno.
Oh yes, saw the “no kitchen” situation after I posted. It’s priced a little steep for what it is - without a kitchen it’s an all cash deal and there’s still renovation to be done.
The oval “streamlined” toilet, overly Italian sink, black-and-white marble are very 80s to me - what a Soviet emigré made good would think of as “European luxury.” And who puts in a Kohler toilet anyway, why not Toto?
If you want to live in the hottest area in the city in a nice looking building, it is never cheap. You can get similar studio for $400/450k in Midtown east.
The bathroom is definitely contemporary not 80s. I saw a lot of them recently. Problems to me are (1) the bathtub doesn't match the sleek decor elsewhere, (2) the veining on the bookend marble is too large and overwhelms the small room, (3) hardware should be matte black not brushed nickel to provide better contrast, (4) mirror should be round or at least rounded edge.
(5) the overhead light appears to be the '80s original. There are so many better LED lights now. (6) can't tell what the floor tile is but I'm not impressed. (7) the toilet and washbasin should be swapped.
Overall there is no visual harmony in the room. Maybe that's what gives it the Soviet emigre look
A lot of these renovations are going to age like black bathroom fixtures.
https://www.us.kohler.com/us/veil-pedestal-lavatory-no-overflow/productDetail/bathroom-sinks/1348354.htm?skuId=1348303&brandId=1383045
Spaceship with "organic shape".
You can get a nice full service alcove for that price in many locations.
You can get a real 1 bed room but it wouldn’t be prime West Village.
@300/stache
thats the thing I never got about the bad/small apartment in a prime spot..
What's the point, so you can brag to people you live in W Village.. just never ever have guests over?
I mean at that point just lie about where you live if you are gonna gamble on having your bluff called?
I can't imagine many people are buying this kind of space/price combination with their own earned money vs bank of mommy&daddy ..
For the price of carrying this, you have a very very nice studio to decent 1BR rental budget..
Steve, Prime hoods are prime for a reason. People mostly pay not to brag but due to enjoying that neighborhood, for happiness and for the ease of doing several activities in day while being able to come home in between. I live in Greenwich Village and like to go for a walk frequently. Do I go for a walk to Flatiron or Chelsea? Perhaps 5–10 percent of the time. Do I walk towards East Village? 15-20 percent of the time primarily due to fantastic small Asian restaurants. Most times it is Washington Square and West Village.
Then there are billionaires who can live any where in the city they like and do not need to brag about themselves. There is a reason many choose townhouses in West/Greenwich village.
If I were to be young, single, making $200k but upwardly mobile income (think income increasing 50%+ per year as in junior employee in an investment bank), I would want to be in the West Village as down time is precious and I want immediate access to going out. That is the market for this apartment. Perhaps $75k lower in price due to unfinished reno.
I've always been a neighborhood first person myself. I absolutely loved living in the West Village, and made some sacrifices in the apartment size to do so. But this was also a Time when I could call up somebody I knew in a management company and get a rent stabilized studio or one bedroom the less than a thousand dollars... My rent on Bedford Street was $800, for a very charming one bedroom with a fireplace! It was probably about 375 ft.
As rents increased exponentially throughout the city, I followed the cheap rent in up and coming neighborhoods; Fort Greene, Greenpoint and then Washington heights/Harlem. Wish I would have bought one of those little one bedrooms back in the day, just never saw the paradigm shift coming with property values...
Keith
TBG
Now studios this size and nice big multiple windows in the front in the West Village are $4500-5000k. With doorman, can be even more.
When you're young in particular it's so much fun to live in trendy neighborhoods.
You know I never viewed the West Village as trendy. Just extremely charming, with access to the waterfront which I liked for bike riding and running. Lots of small businesses, restaurants etc. Just a very charming and quiet place to live.
Of course I'm really dating myself and going back into ancient history! I talk about the 80's like it was yesterday, wife reminds that was over 35 years ago!!!
Hudson River waterfront development in the last 15 years has added a lot to the West Village and Tribeca. Even Christopher street is nicer.
My memories of the Hudson River waterfront only go back 25-30 years and that time it was pretty bad. Meat packing district starting to transform with Pastis and never looked back.
What's pretty bad for some, was full of charm, excitement and character for others ; )
Your gender privilege is showing! Back in the day Washington Street etc. were where artists I knew (or bankers who wanted to pretend they were artists) lived, but they were all men -- I didn't know any single women who would have felt comfortable there (and this was back when most of the single women I knew lived in other "artsy" neighborhoods with plenty of drug dealing, property crime, etc.)
Agree that Greenwich Street and West of it was very sketchy after dark before 2000.
There were plenty of women living in the West Village in the 1980s. In the early part of the '80s I lived on Avenue c with my girlfriend, and there were also plenty of young women that I knew and socialized with that lived in the neighborhood.
My kids went to West Village nursery school starting in 1988, And their mother went there in the 60s, her father bought a brownstone on West 22nd Street in 1959, my oldest daughter still lives there. Chelsea between 9th and 10th Avenue was also a bit rough and tumble in the 80s/90's when I lived there. But it was an amazing neighborhood with a bunch of colorful people of all shapes, sizes and genders.
But this is all in the long ago past... I won't even get into visiting family in both Manhattan and Queens in the 70s!
Kudos to the broker for not spending time mocking up a 'virtually enhanced' version of the unit.
Such vastly different New York experiences! I lived on the edge of Chelsea (26th) starting in 1990, and I would probably stop by and chat with the guys in my favorite restaurant ... every two weeks? ... because someone was following me home from the subway. Everyone I knew who went to Columbia around then got robbed and/or assaulted, including one (later very successful) aspiring lawyer who was mugged at gunpoint outside her Columbia housing. I didn't know anyone who lived on Avenue C, or its environs, who didn't have a story of being separated from their property at some point.
Yes, vastly different experiences. Although I never lived uptown until I moved to Washington heights, and that was in 2008.
Other than my car occasionally being broken into and bicycles stolen, I loved New York in the '70s, '80s and 90's. I moved to 633 East 6th Street in 1982, then to West 22nd Street between 9th and 10th in 1983. My wife grew up on West 22nd Street between 9th and 10th, and like my two oldest kids born and raised in NYC.
My memories of living in New York in the '80s are nothing short of magical. In high school I hung out at Max's Kansas City, the Mudd club, the old peppermint lounge on West 46th Street just to name a few of the great old music venues. You could see Bowie, Iggy Pop, Warhol and Mick Jagger hanging out at Max's.
The city was dirty and gritty and full of life and amazing people. However I was a singer in a punk rock band, not a student at Columbia, though I later went to City college.
However I guess it would not have been very appealing to most of the people that post on this board. And I totally get that.
I can see the appeal of the city in the '80s when a townhouse on W 11th St was $500k. People would say "oh there was this cool spot on Union Sq" or whatever. Today that townhouse is $10m and the place in Union Sq is a Petco. Oh yes and the druggies are back.
$10mm if it needs reno. Renovated 25 footer $20mm plus. People are paying.
George, I know you are partially joking in the grapes are sour way for West Village townhouses. Just to give some first hand information, West Village has the fewest homeless and druggies relatives to other parts of downtown except for a very small area around Christopher/7th Ave and south east on Bleecker/Carmine. Some more on 6th ave from 9th street to Bleecker and they have always been there. 8th Street between 5th and 6th (Greenwich village) has been transformed in the last 5-10 years with shoe stores being replaced by many good restaurants.
I was more referring to Union Sq and Wash Sq Park. There aren't any druggies on Bank St bc someone's body guard will come shoo them away
Washington square park has open air drug market after 7pm. Only candy bars are on the table but they sell everything.
I remember in the early 80's WSP was filled with guys selling bags of pot. There were also undercover cops, but that never really slowed it down. The park was safe, but it was annoying constantly being asked if you wanted to purchase. Believe it or not, they left you alone if you had your kids with you.
The worst was the East Village, on Ave B and 2nd Street there was an abandoned building, they knocked a hole out of the side, had regular 'store hours'. Sometimes there would be 25 people lined up to buy heroin. Mostly young white kids, some that I knew, rich kids from Connecticut. Quite sad. I lost a number of friends to overdose's, good people that couldn't overcome the demons of addiction.
The punk rock scene was a very interesting mix of kids from very diverse backgrounds. Remember the Beastie boys came, they were a hardcore punk band and their first album was called pollywog stew. Our bands used to play together...
Anyway, enough reminiscing about 'old' New York. Enjoy your Sunday everyone!
Keith
If you think there's no homeless issue in the West Village take look on Nextdoor.
I remember in 1990 for some reason all the phone service in 61 Jane St went out and an ad executive went to use the pay phone on the corner of Greenwich St and was shot to death making the call. New York Magazine ran this ridiculous story on how dangerous the Way West Village was including a claim of drug dealers having pit bulls with the vocal chords removed "so you couldn't hear them coming." Both Greenwich and Washington Streets were active strolls for transsexual streetwalkers from 14th down to Christopher.
Heroin was much more East Village with Odessa Restaurant widely considered "the best bathroom to shoot up in." Until they installed all blue light bulbs so junkies couldn't find a vein. One time a friend who had gotten clean was relapsing and went to her favorite spot to cop on Avenue A and locked eyes with an elderly woman who was sweeping her stoop who immediately recognized her look and said "Oh, honey... they haven't been here for years. You need to go up to Washington Heights."
And you used to be able to buy cocaine over the counter at half the bodegas in the LES.
I always used to send my friend to Avenue C to cop. He was better at it and enjoyed the danger.
Some one paid $750k. $25k above ask.
Apparently the sale of cocaine at the remaining LES bodegas is making a slight comeback.
Except today's russian roulette with an individual's fentanyl tolerance is so much scarier than the 90s, accidentally doing a bump of K
truthskr10,
You sure we haven't met? LOL
30yrs
Either in the 80s as a teen having a family meal at the Steak Loft at the all you can eat peel and eat shrimp bar, maybe smoking pot/cutting school in alley pond park.
Or at a zillion clubs in 90s / 00s NYC......not to mention countless Hamptons after hours parties ......it is entirely possible. :)
I knew a guy that got a graham of coke as a Christmas present from his corner deli guy.