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Are Park Avenue and/or UES dead?

Started by GeorgeP
29 days ago
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Here’s a Park Avenue 1BR at 96th street I’ve been following that’s come up for sale periodically since 2020 and then getting pulled. Buyers paid $625K in 2013 and are now asking $600K. Nice enough unit in a solid building. What’s wrong here? https://streeteasy.com/building/1230-park-avenue-new_york/6a
Response by 911turbo
29 days ago
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Member since: Oct 2011

I think the UES is great….there was an article several months ago in the WSJ about how it’s now becoming “trendy”. I just love that it’s not horded by silly tourists snapping pictures at every police car or ambulance. And it’s definitely lower priced than downtown. I still would never in a million years buy a coop and deal with all the stupidity that goes along with it. With this particular listing it says:

“Pied a terre and guarantors now considered.“

Which to me means no and/or a picky board. No thanks

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Response by Krolik
29 days ago
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It is over $5100 monthly after putting 30% down. How much would it cost to rent this or similar unit? I suspect quite a bit less than that.

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Response by MTH
28 days ago
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Nice area but could not stand to stare at brick walls.

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Response by 300_mercer
28 days ago
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George, Look at the increase in maintenance over time. Doubled.

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Response by value
28 days ago
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Its seems small about 600 square feet , dark, and corner 96 street which on Park avenue is the end of the upper east side

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Response by GeorgeP
28 days ago
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Thanks for all your comments. It’s amazing to me to see a unit’s asking price less than it was 13 years ago. Does that mean they overpaid or is the market for 1br UES co-ops flat?

@911 Turbo
Insightful comment about the board. I believe the board won’t let them go below a certain price to sell the unit. These boards are holding on kicking and screaming to artificial values. It’s one of the reasons my wife has no interest in a co-op.

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Response by Aaron2
25 days ago
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No view, small bedrooms, slightly high maintenance for a meh unit. 11A, also with no view, sold 4 years ago for 560k without an open kitchen. Flip tax + supplemental assessment. It's at the other end of Lenox Hill, and a much more modern building, but if somebody wanted a 1 BR, why not this one, which is larger, has central air, and has lower and stable maintenance (but fewer building amenities):
https://streeteasy.com/building/118-east-60-street-new_york/7b
for a ballpark comparable price? (and 32B just went on the market for a very aggressive price).

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Response by stache
22 days ago
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There's a thread about this building. Picky board.

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Response by Aaron2
21 days ago
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I know people in the building, and knew that thread - don't know if there are updates, or how much board turnover there has been -- at one point, the building and board was mostly original tenants who bought when the building converted (mid 70s?). 50 years later, I imagine it's a different population and board.

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Response by stache
18 days ago
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Right but that thread was maybe ten years ago.

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